Y'all technically inclined

Discussion in 'A+ Certification' started by MF, Sep 6, 2004.

  1. its bush's fault. he's too much of a pussy to drop a couple of B-83s
    and dispense with the savages in a proper, civilized manner.

    islam is /NOT/ a religion of peace, it is a religion of /CONQUEST/
     
    Solomon Kozanski, Sep 13, 2004
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  2. MF

    jjw Guest

    Nope, the soldiers are already pissed off because of extended tours, the
    first of all, soldiers being pissed off is a generalization
    second, not to disrespect the soldiers, I have great respect for them,
    but it doesn't matter what they think, they are soldiers, they knew
    what they signed up for, and part of their duty is to follow orders.
    the military is not a democracy.
    the war in iraq was not a retaliation against the people who were
    responsible for the attacks on Sept 11, so the fact that they are in
    iraq instead of where ever you think they should be is irrelevant.

    Your opinion on war seems to be that there it is never justified, but
    sometimes good things come from war, and sometimes it is the right
    choice. I think it was the right choice in this situation.
     
    jjw, Sep 14, 2004
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    Ron Reaugh Guest

    You sleaze bags are ruining a perfectly good thread by mimicking a civil
    debate. Stay OT or get the hell out.
     
    Ron Reaugh, Sep 15, 2004
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  4. i'm looking, i don't see it; but then, we did already establish that
    "civil rights" are nothing more than a congressionally granted
    privilege
    considering that i'm not a terrorist, ashcroft probably doesn't give a
    damn about what i'm reading.
    the

    uh, we *are* at war. soldiers go to war. that's what they get paid to
    do. what did you think, the military was another goddamn WELFARE
    PROGRAM?!?!?!?!
    not enough

    the bases in europe are unnecessary. the europeons can grow some balls
    and start paying for their own damn defense.
    resorting to art bell nonsense again?
    look

    the authors [wolfowitz, et. al.] knew that clinton's policies of
    american impotence would undoubtedly lead to a "pearl harbor" style
    attack, nay, they INVITED a pearl harbor style attack, as ALMOST
    occurred in 1993 at the very same world trade center that bin laden
    was hellbent on destroying!

    there had been steadily increasing sophistication and execution of
    terrorist attacks for YEARS, not to mention the number of innocents
    killed, and NOBODY had any intentions of doing anything about this
    gathering threat. not clinton, not bush(41), not reagan, not carter,
    NOBODY, except for the democrats' favorite, JFK who mused decades back
    that wars of the future would be fought in unconventional style
    against secretive international organizations [read: terrorists],
    which is incidentally one of the primary reasons for the creation of
    the navy SEALs.

    that said, i cannot blame reagan or his predecessors, in light of the
    ominous soviet threat, i can blame bush(41) to a limited extent, since
    he had only to deal with the soviets for a short time, on the other
    hand, he did see the benefits of keeping jerks like hussein under
    wraps. we can lay some blame on 41, but to a greater extent we should
    lay blame where blame belongs, precisely at the same spot as monica
    lewinsky's knees, AT THE FEET OF BILL CLINTON!

    clinton did nothing while:

    a gunman attacked CIA employs at the langley headquarters entrance,
    killing two CIA employees (1/25/93)

    ramzi ahmed yousef detonated a car bomb at the world trade center,
    killing six (2/26/93)

    rashid baz opened fire at a van full of rabbinical students, killing
    one (3/1/94)

    three hatian exiles were attacked by gunfire, one was killed (3/10/94)

    timothy mcveigh blew up the alfred p. murrah federal building in
    oklahoma city, OK, killing 168 (4/19/95)

    a palestinian opened fire on the observation deck of the empire state
    building, killing one (2/23/97)

    terrorists detonated bombs at two US embassies in kenya and tanzania,
    killing 224 (8/7/98)

    eric harris and dylan klebold went on a shooting spree in their high
    school, killing 13 (4/20/99)

    a white supremacist went on a three day shooting spree, killing two
    (7/2/99)

    yet another white supremacist went on a shooting spree, killing an
    asian postal worker (8/10/99)

    islamic suicide bombers attacked the USS Cole, killing 17 (10/12/00)

    numerous other attacks also occurred resulting in injuries and deaths
    to varying degrees around the world during the term of bill clinton

    so as you can see, there is PLENTY of reason to suspect a pearl harbor
    style attack, given that the attacks have become more deadly and more
    frequent with time, and given that democrats like clinton have
    absolutely NO INTENTION of combating these bastards! why stop
    terrorism when you can use it as a tool to take away individual
    liberties that get in the way of the socialist dream?
    country most

    uh, BIN LADEN was in afghanistan, the head of the infamous al qaeda
    organization, and the taliban were warned to cough him up or suffer
    the consequences! it is quite obvious which choice they made!
    strategic/oil/Israeli

    why attack saudi arabia when they had nothing to do with the attacks
    and were supporting the US?!

    or are you just another demoracist who thinks "if he wears a towel, he
    must be a terrorist"?

    and what the hell do israelis have to do with oil?!
    actually, it was planned during the clinton administration, due to the
    fact that CLINTON HIMSELF set the policy that saddam was to be removed
    from power!
    better than having their burned ashes floating around in the upper
    atmosphere when one of those bastards gets around to smuggling a nuke
    into the country under the watchful eye of jean pierre!

    look, if you really want to die, dont f*ck around, do it expeditiously
    and KILL YOURSELF! stop trying to socialize and pansify this country,
    because the rest of us dont want to die with you, which we WILL if
    that chickenshit faggot jean kerry gets elected, and may god curse us
    all to eternal damnation if he does!
     
    Solomon Kozanski, Sep 15, 2004
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    Ron Reaugh Guest

    Clueless off topic gibber.

     
    Ron Reaugh, Sep 15, 2004
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  6. it's all in one thread, clearly labelled, don't read it

    jjw
     
    Jason Wheeler, Sep 16, 2004
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  7. ok, let's establish a few things....without someone going in there with
    guns, there would be no regime change, so IF a regime change was necessary,
    war was also necessary.

    with that regime in power, there were two things that were happening that
    shouldn't have been: the people of iraq were oppressed, and some of them
    were raped and kill by their own leaders. second, having those people in
    power put the United States and other countries at risk. now maybe,
    possibly, this threat was just percieved, maybe nothing would have happened
    had we stayed out.I really don't know, nobody does.

    both of those conditions, the oppression of the iraqi people, and the danger
    to other countries, are, imho, severe enough that they needed to change.
    (Some people felt that the U.S was getting involved where they should not
    be, but I think it was the right thing to do. We did something for those
    people that they could not do for themselves.) And they would not change
    with that regime in power, so a regime change WAS necessary.

    think of the war as an investment, and think of the freeing of the iraqi
    people and the removing dangerous men from power as the
    return-on-investment. is it worth it? I think so, but not everyone does.

    jjw
     
    Jason Wheeler, Sep 16, 2004
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  8. i'd just like to point out that anyone who does not agree with
    removing genocidal dictators like saddam hussein also does not, by
    principle, agree with removing genocidal dictators like adolf hitler
     
    Solomon Kozanski, Sep 16, 2004
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  9. MF

    Ron Reaugh Guest

    Read the thread title you freakin idiot. If you can't post in context the
    go shove your head where the sun doesn't shine.
     
    Ron Reaugh, Sep 16, 2004
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  10. Yeah, we're back to this again. The original thread was entitled
    "Y'all technically inclined", or similar. My news reader is now set to
    follow subject changes, and keep them within the original thread. It
    wasn't awhile back, when I pointed out something similar. I still
    don't know which setting I prefer.

    Tom
     
    Tom MacIntyre, Sep 16, 2004
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  11. MF

    jjw Guest

    There may have been some people that knew there were no WoMD, but that is
    not a fact, that's your opinion.
    Irrelevant. Your opinion is that we should have not gone to war, so whether
    it is or is isn't the most oppressive case doesn't matter, because even if
    it was, you wouldn't have wanted to go to war, am I right?. Maybe there are
    other people who should have been helped, but that does not affect whether
    we should or we shouldn't have done what we did in Iraq.
    I think the majority of those people want to be free. Other than that, no,
    there is probably not a majority. There are probably a hundred different
    ideas on how the country should be run, but at least they have those choices
    now.
    Incalculable. I cannot see the future, and like you, I can only speculate.
    But like I pointed out before, the war was an investment. You put something
    in, you get something back. And you hope that the good that u get back was
    worth the sacrifice you put forth upfront. I think it was.
    It could be interpreted as anything. Do you care how other people percieve
    you? Should you?
    Yes, it could. Actually, for that matter, it could serve to do a lot of
    things.
    This is your first valid point.
    Yes we can. The GDP of the United States is higher than any other country.
    If we can't afford it, no one else can. And we already know other countries
    besides the US went in with us. Besides, the citizens of the US enjoy a
    pretty decent standard of living. Anyone who can read this post lives a
    better life than Sadam himself. I think we can afford it. Now whether or
    not you want to spend tax dollars on it is a different story. Yeah, go
    ahead and quote me the national debt.
    They may not like it, but if it happens they will tolerate it, or they will
    leave. If they want to prevent it, they can elect a leader who will not
    issue a draft, but once it is done, it's done. This is a republic and not a
    democracy.
    This is your second valid point. They could have tried that before going to
    war. They did not exhaust all possible solutions before going to war.
    But I don't think it would have worked because, sure, they could go in and
    assasinate people, but finding them would be hard and long because they are
    spread all over the country. They would always be looking for them, the job
    would never get done.

    jjw
     
    jjw, Sep 16, 2004
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  12. Ever hear of a JPEG?

    Tom
     
    Tom MacIntyre, Sep 17, 2004
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  13. MF

    radical Guest

    If that's all you have to worry about then your having a good day
     
    radical, Sep 17, 2004
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  14. Some people still use dial-up...

    Tom
     
    Tom MacIntyre, Sep 17, 2004
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  15. MF

    radical Guest

    Time to upgrade
     
    radical, Sep 18, 2004
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  16. MF

    Ron Reaugh Guest

    Whimps!

     
    Ron Reaugh, Sep 18, 2004
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  17. MF

    Ron Reaugh Guest


    You are even WORSE with these damn OT posts. Bug off or read the thread
    title.
     
    Ron Reaugh, Sep 18, 2004
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  18. MF

    Ron Reaugh Guest

    Clueless and an even lower reading comprehension level.
     
    Ron Reaugh, Sep 19, 2004
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  19. MF

    Ron Reaugh Guest

    Jesus...dum or dummer..get with it and flamebait goddamnit!
     
    Ron Reaugh, Sep 19, 2004
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  20. MF

    Ron Reaugh Guest

    Now dumbest has shown up OT.
     
    Ron Reaugh, Sep 19, 2004
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