Xtra spam woes... sorta

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Who Am I, Jan 10, 2006.

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    Who Am I Guest

    I have noticed that since Xtra started selling their internet security
    "package" (what ever that is), there seems to be more spam coming
    through, now if I were of a suspicious nature I would be inclined to say
    they have made their filters "leaky" to encourage you to pay for their
    new system.

    Before they started selling it I got 1-4 spams a month, now I can get
    2-3 a day coming though.

    I don't run windows so I can't (and don't want anyway) their pay for
    security suite.

    Anyone else have thoughts about this....
    Who Am I, Jan 10, 2006
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    XPD Guest

    You hit it right on the head.
    Bascially the ISP (and I know of a few that have done this) still offers a
    basic filter for those who dont want the "best" filter.... the basic one
    gets updated maybe once a month if youre lucky and the "best" one gets
    updated everyday.... eventually (they hope) you'll swap to the better

    Easiest thing to do is to start running your own mailserver......... :)
    XPD, Jan 10, 2006
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    Who Am I Guest

    Looking at it, I have OSX server software at home which I use as my web
    server/proxy server and for backing up files onto from the 5 Macs and 1
    PC I have. It is also quite handy for sharing that USB laser printer
    between all the machines too as well a acting as an iTunes music server,
    etc. Guess the mail server is the next step.
    Who Am I, Jan 10, 2006
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    Shane Guest

    Ive always wondered if you can use FreeBSD ports on the MAC
    Shane, Jan 10, 2006
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    Shane Guest

    Just to answer my own question
    Will I be able to use the ports from FreeBSD?

    The quick answer to this question is no. The Darwin Ports architecture is
    written in TCL and is a reimplementation of the ideas behind the ports
    architecture in the other *BSD's. The Darwin ports architecture was
    designed to be more well thought out and "future proof." Meaning that as
    new ideas came along that the Darwin ports could easily take advantage of
    them. Often what happens is the programs are not written with the
    assumption that new ideas will come along, and they later have to be
    written to take advantage of the new ideas. For instance, this
    implementation of the *BSD ports are

    with reference to this thread
    And it looks like everything is available for a mailserver
    Shane, Jan 10, 2006
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    Stu Fleming Guest

    On the mailserver that I run, there has been a significant uptick in
    spam traffic since December, coupled with a characteristic change in the
    "type" of spam injection so that, until I adjusted filters, more than
    usual got past.
    Stu Fleming, Jan 10, 2006
  7. T'was the Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:41:09 +1300 when I remembered "XPD"
    Easy way for your data charges to go through the roof. I'm hitting
    2500 spam a month, that's near 100 a day. Doesn't sound a lot, but
    that number will keep going up, and I doubt my download cap will
    increase at the same rate.
    Waylon Kenning, Jan 10, 2006
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    geopelia Guest

    Xtra has had a spam catcher (advertised with a sort of skeleton flasher) for
    a long time. I used to get about 100 spams a day, now I only get about a
    dozen. I haven't tried their new system as I already have a virus program.
    I use block sender for the persistent ones.

    geopelia, Jan 10, 2006
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    Who Am I Guest

    OSX server software comes with a mail server already so i don't need any
    of the ports at all, its just a matter of sitting down and reading the
    documentation and figuring out how it is done..... sigh....

    On the other hand the proxy /firewall are very nice in preventing the
    kids from downloading PC viruses as I have about 30 web hosts blocked
    that I know host viruses/trojans for the brazillians.
    Who Am I, Jan 10, 2006
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    Rob Guest

    My parents are have exactly the same issue. Xtras spam filtering used to
    stop all spam (and put it in a spam folder in their webmail). Now they are
    getting about 5 spam a day that are coming through. I will switch them away
    from Xtra in the near future as they ae over priced.
    Rob, Jan 10, 2006
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    Squirrel Guest

    I had trouble with spam filter filling a spam folder and leaving me
    with 1000 emails to delete 4 at a time because the stupid site owuld
    not accept DELETE all. I went online and changed it to pour my spam
    str8 down the toilet rather than into a folder, much much better

    I've gone crazy......but I will be back soon
    Squirrel, Jan 11, 2006
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    Jerry Guest

    I'm on Telstra Clear (from Paradise Saturn) and lately I've had a lot
    more spam getting through their filter. There should be a world-wide
    death penalty for spammers. Death by flamethrower, they couild do it in
    a big stadium and charge admission.....

    'nuff rant
    Jerry, Jan 11, 2006
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    PC Guest

    Yes I've also noticed the increase in unmarked [SPAM] around 2-4 per day.
    Also found out their 'Security Suite' (McAfee) is bloatware just like
    Had a Pavilion 8851 in for work that took fully 5 extra minutes to boot with
    the Xtra SS installed.
    (That was after sorting it out, when it came in it wouldn't even boot
    because of the Xtra SS)

    PC, Jan 11, 2006
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    Squirrel Guest

    I made the foolish mistake of pricing some medication in Canada and
    the US, since then I get about ten a day spams selling viagra, cialis
    etc certainly not what I was sourcing and impossible to stop as they
    use sneaky opening lines, also get a dozen or so a week announcing I
    have won 20 billion euros or simlar, and not to forget the african
    based scams, still beats the zillion or so a day of Korean spam I used
    to get, I had never visited a korean site, maybe it was a case of
    Stalker, he moves in mysterious ways, lol

    I've gone crazy......but I will be back soon
    Squirrel, Jan 11, 2006
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    whoisthis Guest

    Its the virus laden ones (URLs to web hosts) from brazil I hate.
    whoisthis, Jan 11, 2006
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    whoisthis Guest

    I'm on Telstra Clear (from Paradise Saturn) and lately I've had a lot
    more spam getting through their filter. There should be a world-wide
    death penalty for spammers. Death by flamethrower, they couild do it in
    a big stadium and charge admission.....

    'nuff rant[/QUOTE]

    NO, a better idea is that they should have the individually hand write
    an appology to everyone they spammed..... now there is a new definition
    of HELL - 50 years of writers cramp !
    whoisthis, Jan 11, 2006
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    Jerry Guest

    *then* can we flamethrower them?
    Jerry, Jan 12, 2006
  18. ... that will just make them write slower :)


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