XP64 - XP Home networking file issue

Discussion in 'Windows 64bit' started by rokkon, Jun 4, 2006.

  1. rokkon

    rokkon Guest

    I'm running XP64 and XP Home on my LAN behind a router.

    Everything works fine trying to access shared drives and folders on
    XP64 from my XP Home machine, but when I try to access my XP Home
    machine from my XP64 machine, in certain cases a file that does
    exist does not appear.

    This usually happens in cases where there are nested folders within
    the main shared folder/source. Anyone have any ideas?
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    rokkon, Jun 4, 2006
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  2. I am not sure, but I believe I read somewhere that if you share folders it
    will not work on system folders. To see those you may have to share the
    whole drive.


    Tony. . .
     
    Tony Sperling, Jun 4, 2006
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  3. rokkon

    Graham Guest

    This is almost certainly a permissions issue, which can get very
    complicated. Next time this occurs, try this on x64: on the file which
    cannot be seen from XP Home, right click, select Properties, then the
    Security tab. Now do the same on a file which *can* be seen from XP
    Home, and compare what you see. If they are different, you can either
    change the one which can't be seen, or post back here with what you see.

    If the permissions are different, the next questiion to answer will be
    why, of course.

    Graham.
     
    Graham, Jun 4, 2006
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  4. rokkon

    rokkon Guest

    I think you have the situation reversed. XP Home can see all the
    files on both computers, but XP64 only sees some of the files on XP
    Home. This situation is also further confused by the fact that the
    files that are missing are alphabetically before the other files.
    I've done tests where I've made a copy of a file and suddenly a file
    that wasn't visible before was suddenly visible.

    I've also examined the sharing properties of the XP Home
    files/folders and they seem identical, however I can't see the XP 64
    secutiry properties of the XP Home files that don't appear.
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    rokkon, Jun 4, 2006
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  5. rokkon

    rokkon Guest

    This shouldn't be an issue, as the folders that I'm sharing are not
    system folders (most are media folders with video or mp3's or
    application files)

    <------------------------------------------------------------
    I am not sure, but I believe I read somewhere that if you share
    folders it
    will not work on system folders. To see those you may have to share
    the
    whole drive.


    Tony. . .


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    rokkon, Jun 4, 2006
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  6. rokkon

    Graham Guest

    Ooops, sorry!
    XP Home's sharing and security is different to XP Professional, it is
    "simplified" and things are hidden - like the security settings. The
    fact that things are hidden can make it difficult to figure out what's
    going on. You may need to look at some of the command line tools like
    cacls.exe, xcacls.exe amd xcacls.vbs to look at file permissions. OTOH,
    if I read you correctly, what you can and can't see change without any
    changes to what is being shared, so that tends to rule out permission
    problems.

    Have you looked in the event logs of both systems to see if any errors
    are reported? Do you have any other computers networked to these two? If
    so, any chance two of them accidentally have the same name or IP
    address? What firewalls and anti-spyware programs are you using? Have
    you checked their logs?

    Graham.
     
    Graham, Jun 4, 2006
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  7. rokkon

    rokkon Guest

    Which logs should I look for? As far as I can tell, both systems
    definitely have different names and ip addresses. On the XP64, I
    only have windows firewall running on the default, no antivirus or
    antispyware. On XP Home, I have xp firewall and avg 7.1. Right
    now, those are the only active computers on the network (my PS2 and
    my laptop are not connected/not on)
    <------------------------------------------------------------
    Have you looked in the event logs of both systems to see if any
    errors
    are reported? Do you have any other computers networked to these
    two? If
    so, any chance two of them accidentally have the same name or IP
    address? What firewalls and anti-spyware programs are you using?
    Have
    you checked their logs?
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    rokkon, Jun 4, 2006
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  8. rokkon

    Graham Guest

    To look at the event logs, go to My Computer, right click, select
    Manage, then in the tree under Computer Management/System Tools you will
    see Event Viewer: look in all the logs you find there.

    Alternatively, you can get to the Event Viewer from the Control Panel
    after selecting Administrative Tools.

    Graham.
     
    Graham, Jun 4, 2006
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  9. What about the Router?

    Some things that you configure asks for the Gateway IP and that is the
    Router's IP as seen from the client machines. The Gaateway IP that the
    Router is seing though, is the ISP's IP adress and this turned out to be a
    stumbling block for me, I remember. Check that all IP adresses are unique,
    and looks consistent with how they are attached.

    Tony. . .
     
    Tony Sperling, Jun 4, 2006
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  10. Andre Da Costa [Extended64], Jun 4, 2006
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  11. Tony Sperling, Jun 4, 2006
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  12. rokkon

    Guest Guest

    i am running the same thing, file shareing works but trying to get both
    systems to access the internet at the same time isnt working, when i clone
    the mac address the x64 wont connect and when i dont clone the mac the x64
    will but the xp home wont. any suggestions? thanx
     
    Guest, Jun 5, 2006
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  13. rokkon

    Rick Guest

    Where and why are you cloning MACs? How are you connecting to the internet?

    I have my computers connected to a router. The internet access is via
    the router connected to a DSL modem. I have had as many as 4 different
    computers accessing the internet at the same time - mix of Win x64,
    Linux, Win XP x86. I never mess with cloning MACs.

    I think in all cases when I could not access files and folders on
    another computer on my home network, it was due to "Authentication"
    being enabled. I have disabled "Authentication" on all my computers and
    I don't have any problems accessing other computers.
     
    Rick, Jun 5, 2006
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  14. rokkon

    Guest Guest

    I have a cable modem, running a network cable to the router, then 2 computers
    hooked to the router, the instructions said turn off everything, plug in all
    the network cables to router modem and computers, then turn on router then
    computers then log onto the setting for the router and clone the mac then
    reset the router, then turn on the modem and they should connect to the
    internet, but only one connects at a time, i go to the cmd and do ipconfig
    and both computers have the same i.p. address for the router and the network
    connections say there connected, but when i click on IE or anything that uses
    the internet nothing works only one computer actually connects. the modem is
    a toshiba and the router is a gigafast or something. this is just stumping
    me. thanks Rick
     
    Guest, Jun 5, 2006
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  15. rokkon

    Rick Guest

    Do you have a MB with nVidia chips?

     
    Rick, Jun 6, 2006
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  16. rokkon

    Guest Guest

    Ok, Ok i solved the problem i brought the router back and the store said it
    was probably defaulty so i got a new one and now it works fine. Im such a
    dumb dumb sometime. lol
     
    Guest, Jun 6, 2006
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  17. rokkon

    Rick Guest

    Glad you got it solved!

     
    Rick, Jun 6, 2006
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  18. rokkon

    rokkon Guest

    Where did you disable Authentication?

    So far, I haven't noticed anything out of the blue in my logs, so
    I'm really wondering if I'm the only one with this problem.

    <--------------------------------------------------------
    I think in all cases when I could not access files and folders on
    another computer on my home network, it was due to "Authentication"
    being enabled. I have disabled "Authentication" on all my computers
    and
    I don't have any problems accessing other computers.
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    rokkon, Jun 6, 2006
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  19. rokkon

    Rick Guest

    In the "Properties" of the particular network connection. I have mine
    labeled "LAN" so it comes up as "LAN Properties" and there is an
    "Authentication" tab. I have all the 'Authentication' options unchecked
    (Off).
     
    Rick, Jun 6, 2006
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  20. rokkon

    rokkon Guest

    Hm..I tried this, but it didn't change anything. There are still a
    few files/folders that do not appear from my XP64 machine. (these
    are similar media files/folders, not system files or folders, and I
    am sharing the root drive as well)
    <-------------------------------------------------
    In the "Properties" of the particular network connection. I have
    mine
    labeled "LAN" so it comes up as "LAN Properties" and there is an
    "Authentication" tab. I have all the 'Authentication' options
    unchecked
    (Off).

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    rokkon, Jun 6, 2006
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