XP64 usefull for me?

Discussion in 'Windows 64bit' started by Nice Bike, Oct 30, 2007.

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    XS11E Guest

    Agreed, if there was ANY way I could run with UAC on I would but...
    XS11E, Oct 31, 2007
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    R. C. White Guest

    Hi, Nice Bike.
    One of the great ongoing "religious battles". ;^}

    My opinion: If you have multiple hard drives, put the swap file on a
    different physical drive - a different spindle. Since a hard drive's heads
    are permanently fixed together as a unit, they can't read data from track
    100 and swap to track 5000 at the same time; the whole "gang" has to move
    from 100 to 5000 - and then back again to continue reading from 100. But if
    the swap file is on a second HD, then reading from track 100 on HD0 and
    writing to track 5000 on HD1 can be happening simultaneously. Multiply that
    by a few thousand read/writes an hour and you should see some speed gains.
    But putting the swap file ANYWHERE on the same HD (the same spindle) as the
    OS is not likely to gain much speed. So it doesn't help to have the swap
    file is in Drive X: if Drive X: is just another partition on the same
    physical drive (same spindle, same gang of heads). If you have only a
    single physical drive, then any speed gain is going to be minimal, no matter
    where you put the swap file.

    I'm no gamer and I'm not sure just how they use the drives, but I would
    guess that you should try to put the swap file on a physical drive other
    than the one that has the game's executable files and data - and still
    separate from the systemdrive.

    Still one of the best articles on this subject is the one written by MVP
    Alex Nichol, who died in 2005. The article was written for WinXP, but the
    ideas apply to Vista, too: Virtual Memory in Windows XP;
    http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm (While you are there, be sure to
    explore that www.aumha.org website; LOTS of good information there.)

    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX

    Microsoft Windows MVP
    (Running Windows Live Mail beta 2 in Vista Ultimate x64)
    R. C. White, Nov 1, 2007
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  3. I've been running with UAC on since before it shipped. I've not yet found a
    single thing to change that opinion. I have two things I do to make life
    easier - I open a PowerShell window _as administrator_ and keep it open.
    (and I have a startup script for PowerShell that turns that window a nice,
    dark red background so I always know I'm in it, not the regular PS window)

    The other thing I did was create identical drive mappings in that elevated
    Charlie Russel - MVP, Nov 1, 2007
  4. How not? I run with it on full time and have for >1year.

    One thing I do that helps - I open a powershell window _as admin_ and keep
    it open for when I need to run something with elevated privileges. And have
    a startup script for it that maps the same drive letters as my regular
    environment, and turns the window background dark red so I always know it's
    the elevated one.
    Charlie Russel - MVP, Nov 1, 2007
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    XS11E Guest

    UAC breaks a program I'm unwilling to do without. I've tried several
    workarounds but no fix and the author has not yet and probably won't
    update the software so... UAC is off and will remain off. The only
    alternative is to dump Vista and go back to XP.
    XS11E, Nov 1, 2007
  6. I'm going to assume you have tried all the obvious workarounds, but they
    * Run this program as administrator (from compatibility tab of the icon for
    * Run in compatibility mode for XP SP2
    * Initiate from an already elevated prompt (see my comment about keeping an
    open PowerShell window. Same is possible for cmd, and even for IE)

    I haven't found one that won't respond to at least one of those so far.
    Charlie Russel - MVP, Nov 1, 2007
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    XS11E Guest

    I have, IE Privacy Keeper. It wipes cookies, history, etc. when IE or
    Firefox is closed but allows me to specify cookies I want to keep
    such as my local newspaper, etc.

    It worked perfectly on RTM but some later update moved cookies from
    the folder ...\Cookies to ..\Cookies\Low and IE Privacy Keeper will NOT
    recognize that folder nor will UAC allow it to be deleted
    sooooooo..... UAC is off and I've written them several times with no

    The last update was 2005 so I think the program is dead but
    nothing else works exactly like it does....
    XS11E, Nov 2, 2007
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    McG. Guest

    From my own experience on a desktop system with IDE and SATAII drives, XP
    Pro x86 and X64, the answer is nope. You'll get pretty much the same
    results in both OSs. I do all my photography now in digital, and I'm often
    moving fairly large volumes of files/folders around. Both on this system
    and to external LAN hard drives. Moving a few gigs of files simply takes a
    little while.
    McG., Nov 2, 2007
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    Nice Bike Guest

    I was hoping to get rid of the swapfile altogether with 4GB of RAM in
    the new system I'm going to build. Or is that not possible? Will there
    always be a need for a swapfile?
    Nice Bike, Nov 3, 2007
  10. You should always have a swap file.
    Charlie Russel - MVP, Nov 3, 2007
  11. yes, you'll always need a swap file.
    Charlie Russel - MVP, Nov 4, 2007
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