XNoArchive filtering with Thunderbird 3. (ping ~Misfit~)

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Squiggle, Mar 4, 2010.

  1. Squiggle

    Squiggle Guest

    Hey all, putting this up for Misfit, and anyone else that wants to be
    rid of all posts by people that hide behind X-No-Archive in newsgroups.
    Came up in thread in nz.general a week or so ago and I'm too lazy to try
    to find the post again to reply to. Also should give you an idea of how
    to add a filter on any other custom header in thunderbird.

    How to set up an XNoArchive filter:
    Tools Menu -> Message Filters. Select the newsgroup you want to apply
    the filter to in the drop-down list at the top. Once that is doen,
    click the New Button.

    A dialog titled "Filter Rules" appears. Place a name for the filter in
    the top text box eg "XNoArchive"

    In the middle section the first drop-down list has Customise as its last
    entry, click this and a new dialog box "Customise Headers" appears.
    Enter the text "X-No-Archive" in the top text box without the quotes.
    Make sure you enter it exactly, with hyphens and not underscores and no
    spaces. Im not sure if it is case sensitive so to be safe make sure the
    case is correct. Click the "Add" button. X-No-archive should now be in
    the larger text area. Click "OK"

    This should put you back in the Filter Rules dialog. Change the first
    drop box in the middle section from Customize to the X-No-Archive option
    that is now present. Change the next box to "contains" and then enter
    "yes" into the blank text box to the right of it. change the first (or
    only) drop-down in the bottom section (perform these actions" to "Delete
    Message". Click "OK".

    You should now be free of messages from all posters with the
    X-no-archive header set in that newsgroup. If you need to set it up for
    several groups you wont need to create the new header in the Customise
    headers dialog.
     
    Squiggle, Mar 4, 2010
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  2. Squiggle

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Wicked! Thanks Squiggs. I haven't got around to moving my newsreading from
    OE yet but you've just given me one compelling reason to do so. I just wish
    I didn't have to download so many damn headers when I do so, the 'catch-up'
    or whatever the equivalent is in Tbird (I sub to some high-traffic groups
    and Eternal September has fairly long retention but doesn't like it if I
    pull down too much data. I seem to remember they blobk me for 24 hours (?)
    if I do that.)

    Anyway, your post is cut'n'pasted and appreciated muchly. I hope that you
    have a good weekend.

    Oh, when I migrate to Tbird I'm likely to hang up the old ~misfit~ moniker.
    It was a spur-of-the-moment thing that I picked when I first started using
    usenet. Trouble is now I've got stuck in a rut and can't decide on a new
    one. LOL. 'He who was ~misfit~'? <g> 'The bullshit artist formerly known as
    ~misfit~'? I'm trying to think of something that is short, sweet and
    descriptive of me, bearing in mind that I post to an eclectic assortment of
    groups. (Damn, leaving myself open there huh?)
     
    ~misfit~, Mar 4, 2010
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  3. Squiggle

    Gordon Guest

    no wool?
     
    Gordon, Mar 5, 2010
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  4. Squiggle

    Nighthawk Guest

    I don't understand what the problem is with someone not wanting to
    have their posts archived. Why do you consider it 'hiding'? For a
    long time I had my posts marked x-no-archive but that was because I
    did not consider myself 'important'.
     
    Nighthawk, Mar 5, 2010
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  5. Squiggle

    Nighthawk Guest

    Off course there are one or two here who think you should use your
    real name, though they aren't necessarily unique or say anything about
    you, hey?
     
    Nighthawk, Mar 5, 2010
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  6. Squiggle

    Squiggle Guest

    It's not a problem with X-no-archive as such. the problem is those that
    choose to use it are generally hypocrites/delusional/plain stupid trying
    to hide their mental issues behind x-no-archive.

    Having said that, when i first started posting on usenet I used my real
    name and X-no-archive, but as i spent more time on here I migrated to
    using a pseudonym and not worrying about archiving at all. I stand by
    what I have said as being my honest opinion at the time. The pseudonym
    seperates my real name from my online persona in case any potential
    employers try a google search and have differing political/religious
    views, and to avoid the internet stalkers of the world. I haven't
    hidden my psuedonm changes, which usually come about a result of
    reinstalling windows etc.

    Greg dowle (if that is his real name) is a classic example of why those
    that use x-no-archive are *usually* not worth bothering about. Any
    reposting of his original delusional posts are decried as forgeries,
    and his mental state seems oscillate wildly.

    If you say something, what is wrong with having it archived? At worst
    you have to admit you were mistaken or you have changed your mind about
    a subject assuming you were honest in the first place. If you can't
    stand by your words, are they worth my time to read?
     
    Squiggle, Mar 5, 2010
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  7. Squiggle

    ~misfit~ Guest

    LOL, Nearly a 'woosh' there.

    Nah, although I'll continue to sign my post with 'Shaun' I'd like to have a
    descriptive or at least amusing nick in the 'from' column. It's an option
    though I guess.
     
    ~misfit~, Mar 5, 2010
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  8. Squiggle

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Yeah, I like a [relatively] unique and descriptive or funny psuedonym in the
    'from' column. I've yet to see anyone else use '~misfit~' anywhere (other
    than someone pretending to be me [I used to know the geek term for that]). I
    don't hide my real name and indeed sign my posts with my real first name.
    (If anyone cares enough a Google (or likely a question to the right stalker)
    will get you my surname.)

    I originally decided, on advice, to go for anonymity on usenet largely
    because I was asking questions in drug groups because, as a chronis pain
    patient, I was told that's where I'd get the best info on real-world
    effects, down-sides etc. However after a while I decided that, if I wanted
    to express a strongly-held opinion (and I do, often) that it meant nothing
    coming from someone who didn't post their real name so I 'outted' myself.

    However I kept the ~misfit~ part for continuity's sake and because I also
    stand behind everything I've said. Sort of an anti-X-No-Archive stand. I
    look at it as personal integrity. A man (or woman) is only as good as their
    word. If they set the no archive flag then their word is only good for a
    week. Says a lot IMO.

    Indeed, if / when I change my nym I'll have 'used to post as ~misfit~' or
    similar in my sig file, for a while at least, for the same reason. I might
    not change it, I still feel like a misfit. However I feel like so much more!
    <g> Also, these days, as I've largely physically removed myself from
    society, mainly as a result of an anxiety disorder coupled with living on an
    invalid's benefit meaning I simply don't have the money to socialise outside
    of teh intarwebs much the 'misfit' part of my personallity isn't so
    significant. How can the fact that you're a misfit be significant if you're
    not actually doing any 'fitting'? Also I find that a lot of intarweb
    denizens are misfits of one kind or another. <g>

    Anyway this is nz.comp.
     
    ~misfit~, Mar 5, 2010
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  9. Squiggle

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Squiggles pretty much answered your question as I would have, particularly
    his last paragraph. Also I touched on it in another reply to you.

    Someone who doesn't stand behind what they say (regardless of what 'name'
    they are using [as long as it's consistent]) is someone whose posts I'm not
    interested in reading.

    It takes knowledge to set up X-No-Archive so it's not like it's done by
    ticking a box (<shrug> maybe it is these days?). So, the person doing it is
    making a deliberate effort to hide what they say. The most common reason for
    this (IMO) is because they are being decietful or are trolling. Either way,
    I don't want to tread it.
     
    ~misfit~, Mar 5, 2010
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  10. Squiggle

    Squiggle Guest

    Substitute "Organization" and "http://groups.google.com" for
    "X-No-Archive" and "yes" respectively to remove the googletards.
     
    Squiggle, Mar 7, 2010
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  11. Squiggle

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Hmmmm. Unfortunately one or two rather intarweb-naive but generally pleasant
    people I 'know' post via the tard portal. :-\

    Thanks though, I'll keep it in mind.
     
    ~misfit~, Mar 8, 2010
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  12. Squiggle

    Squiggle Guest

    You can always add more conditions that specifies the rule does not
    apply if poster equals or etc.
     
    Squiggle, Mar 8, 2010
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  13. Squiggle

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Ahh, OK.

    Squiggles, a question that you may know the answer to;

    Can I have two installs of Thunderbird on one machine? I *REALLY* don't like
    using the same software for email as usenet. Also, I just had a half-arsed
    attempt at setting up usenet on Tbird (which I aborted for now) and it wants
    to put my posts into my 'sent' folder with my sent emails (which I'd rather
    not) and it seems that, by default, it wants to share a lot of stuff between
    email and usenet.

    I figured it'd be easier just running two instances. I guess I could just
    try it (or Google it) but, as I only just tried and now I see this it's on
    my mind so thought I'd mention it... Also it wanted to use my 'default' smtp
    client for sending posts (?) and I couldn't find where to enter my password
    for Eternal September... It seems I have a lot of research to do.
     
    ~misfit~, Mar 9, 2010
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  14. Squiggle

    Squiggle Guest

    Can't say I've tried, but since Thunderbird portable can exist on a USB
    drive and leaves behind no residue on the computers its run on I assume
    you could have two instances of that in different directories.
    http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/thunderbird_portable

    Tools -> Account settings -> [Account] -> Copies and folders is where
    you fix that problem.
    AFAIK smtp is for email only, the smtp setting in the newsgroup account
    is for use if/when you try to reply directly to the author of a
    newsgroup post.

    For the password for aioe:
    Tools -> Account settings -> [Aioe account] -> Server settings : Tick
    the "Always request authentication" box. That should do it.
     
    Squiggle, Mar 9, 2010
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  15. Squiggle

    ~misfit~ Guest

    Hmmm. I wondered if there was a portable version.

    Yeah. I couldn't create any sub-folders under Eternal September at the time
    (which is where I'd have liked to have kept sent usenet posts)....
    Good point. If I go with the one install I'll try to disable that as I
    pretty much never reply to poster. It would save accidents.
    Ok, thanks. As I said, I only had a quick look. I was trying to get a few
    things done about the place but had a few short breaks as pain forced me to
    rest for a wee while. I should have learned by now, that's never the best
    time to try to work out something new as pain not only takes it out of me
    physically but also mentally.

    I've copied this post to my desktop for when I don't follow my own advice
    and try to set it up again, I'm too sore now and need to lie down.

    Thanks.
     
    ~misfit~, Mar 9, 2010
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