"Wonderful" Windows 7...

Discussion in 'Computer Information' started by Robert Baer, Feb 7, 2013.

  1. Robert Baer

    Robert Baer Guest

    Well, i have a working installation of Win7(32-bit), one partition is
    automatically a 100Mb system garbage holder thereby wasting valuable
    partitions, one partition with Win7 (NTFS), and one partition with DOS
    stuff (FAT32 asked for, Win7 tagged it as FAT32X).

    Seems to work fine, but..........
    Boot to DOS with floppy, run Partition Magic's Partinfo.EXE and find
    almost a _page_ of errors like: partition didn't begin on head boundary,
    starting sector / number of sectors in partition is inconsistent,
    partition didn't begin / end on cylinder boundary, partition ends after
    end of disk.

    I am afraid to defrag the damn thing, as that may case a trashed
    system; cannot copy it with Ghostpe.EXE as the three errors found cause
    it to crash.
    Do not even mention Acronis which is worse.

    Tried CHKDSK /F which found ZERO errors and made no changes in this
    trash of HD pointers.
    Booted with system DVD and selected Repair to no avail.

    HELP!!!
     
    Robert Baer, Feb 7, 2013
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  2. <snip>

    I'm running Win 7 (64-bit) on my computer which I partitioned
    successfully with Partition Magic. I installed Win 7 on C:, many
    programs were installed on D: and music on E:

    I don't regard myself as professional enough to give you assistance.
    If you don't get successful advice in this newsgroup I suggest you try
    <alt.windows7.general>
     
    Erik Vastmasd, Feb 8, 2013
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  3. Robert Baer

    Robert Baer Guest

    Well, i used Partinfo.EXE (from Partiton Magic) to look at the drive.
    What follows is a cut from the results read and weep):

    Disk 0: 18365 Cylinders, 224 Heads, 19 Sectors/Track.
    ========================== Partition Tables =========================
    Partition -----Begin---- ------End----- Start Num
    Sector # Boot Cyl Head Sect FS Cyl Head Sect Sect Sects
    --------- - ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ---- ---- ---- --------- ---------
    0 0 80 0 32 33 07 12 223 19 2048 204800
    Error #105: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
    ucBeginHead expected to be 0 or 1, not 32.
    Error #106: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
    ucBeginSector expected to be 1, not 33.
    Error #116: Starting sector of partition is inconsistent.
    ulStartSect = 2048
    Begin C,H,S = 640
    Error #110: Number of sectors in partition is inconsistent.
    ucSectors = 204800
    end - begin = 54688
    0 1 00 12 223 20 0C 1023 254 63 206848 36657152
    Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
    Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
    Actual values are:
    0 1 00 48 134 15 0C 8661 146 10 206848 36657152
    Error #105: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
    ucBeginHead expected to be 0 or 1, not 134.
    Error #106: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
    ucBeginSector expected to be 1, not 15.
    Error #108: Partition didn't end on cylinder boundary.
    ucEndHead expected to be 223, not 146.
    Error #108: Partition didn't end on cylinder boundary.
    ucEndSector expected to be 19, not 10.
    0 2 00 1023 254 63 07 1023 254 63 36864000 41297920
    Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
    Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
    Actual values are:
    0 2 00 8661 146 11 0718365 25 5 36864000 41297920
    Error #105: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
    ucBeginHead expected to be 0 or 1, not 146.
    Error #106: Partition didn't begin on head boundary.
    ucBeginSector expected to be 1, not 11.
    Error #109: Partition ends after end of disk.
    ucEndCylinder (18365) must be less than 18365.
    Error #108: Partition didn't end on cylinder boundary.
    ucEndHead expected to be 223, not 25.
    Error #108: Partition didn't end on cylinder boundary.
    ucEndSector expected to be 19, not 5.
    ==============================================================================
    Disk 0: 38164.8 Megabytes
    ============================ Partition Information
    ===========================
    Volume Partition Partition Start
    Total
    Letter:Label Type Status Size MB Sector # Sector
    Sectors
    ------------- --------------- -------- ------- --------- - ---------
    ---------
    NTFS Pri,Boot 100.0 0 0 2048
    204800
    *:NO NAME FAT32X Pri 17899.0 0 1 206848
    36657152
    NTFS Pri 20165.0 0 2 36864000
    41297920
    ========================================================================
    Boot Sector for drive *: (Drive 0, Starting Sector 0x800, Type: NTFS
    ========================================================================
    1. Jump: EB 52 90
    2. OEM Name: NTFS
    3. Bytes Per Sector: 512
    4. Sectors Per Cluster: 8
    5. Reserved Sectors: 0
    6. Number of FAT's: 0
    7. Root Dir Entries: 0
    8. Total Sectors: 0 (0x0000)
    9. Media Descriptor: 248
    10. Sectors Per FAT: 0
    11. Sectors Per Track: 63 (0x003F)
    12. Number of Heads: 255 (0x00FF)
    13. Hidden Sectors: 2048 (0x00000800)
    14. Big Total Sectors: 0 (0x00000000)
    15. Unused: 0x80 0x00 0x80 0x00
    16. Total NTFS Sectors: 204799 (0x31FFF)
    17. MFT Start Cluster: 8533 (0x2155)
    18. MFT Mirror Start Clust: 2 (0x2)
    19. Clusters per FRS: 246
    20. Clusters per Index Blk: 1
    21. Serial Number: 0x606C6EC06C6E9098
    22. Checksum: 0x00000000
    23. Boot Signature: 0xAA55
    ========================================================================
    Boot Sector for drive *: (Drive 0, Starting Sector 0x32800, Type: FAT32
    ========================================================================
    1. Jump: EB 58 90
    2. OEM Name: MSDOS5.0
    3. Bytes Per Sector: 512
    4. Sectors Per Cluster: 32
    5. Reserved Sectors: 6688
    6. Number of FAT's: 2
    7. Reserved: 0x0000
    8. Reserved: 0x0000
    9. Media Descriptor: 248
    10. Sectors Per FAT: 0
    11. Sectors Per Track: 19 (0x0013)
    12. Number of Heads: 224 (0x00E0)
    13. Hidden Sectors: 206848 (0x00032800)
    14. Big Total Sectors: 36657152 (0x022F5800)
    15. Big Sectors Per FAT: 8944
    16. Extended Flags: 0x0000
    17. FS Version: 0x0000
    18. First Cluster of Root: 2 (0x00000002)
    19. FS Info Sector: 1
    20. Backup Boot Sector: 6
    21. Reserved: 000000000000000000000000
    22. Drive ID: 0x80
    23. Reserved for NT: 0x00
    24. Extended Boot Sig: 41
    25. Serial Number: 0xC4B38ED0
    26. Volume Name: NO NAME
    27. File System Type: FAT32
    28. Boot Signature: 0xAA55
    ========================================================================
    Boot Sector for drive *: (Drive 0, Starting Sector 0x2328000, Type: NTFS
    ========================================================================
    1. Jump: EB 52 90
    2. OEM Name: NTFS
    3. Bytes Per Sector: 512
    4. Sectors Per Cluster: 8
    5. Reserved Sectors: 0
    6. Number of FAT's: 0
    7. Root Dir Entries: 0
    8. Total Sectors: 0 (0x0000)
    9. Media Descriptor: 248
    10. Sectors Per FAT: 0
    11. Sectors Per Track: 63 (0x003F)
    12. Number of Heads: 255 (0x00FF)
    13. Hidden Sectors: 36864000 (0x02328000)
    14. Big Total Sectors: 0 (0x00000000)
    15. Unused: 0x80 0x00 0x80 0x00
    16. Total NTFS Sectors: 41297919 (0x27627FF)
    17. MFT Start Cluster: 786432 (0xC0000)
    18. MFT Mirror Start Clust: 2 (0x2)
    19. Clusters per FRS: 246
    20. Clusters per Index Blk: 1
    21. Serial Number: 0x220088B100888D8B
    22. Checksum: 0x00000000
    23. Boot Signature: 0xAA55
     
    Robert Baer, Feb 8, 2013
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  4. Robert Baer

    Robert Baer Guest

    When i installed Win7, I purposely left some space on the HD for
    another formatted partition for my customized data.
    Ain't Win7 wonderful? It refused to let me format or assign a drive
    letter to it.
    A number of the (page-worth) errors that Partinfo.exe (from Partition
    Magic) listed were of the type CHS location did not agree with LBA
    location; DriveCopy fixed them.
    But DriveCopy refuses to run it, tags it as BAD.
    But Win7 blithely runs with no burps and it is impossible (naturally)
    to run CHKSDK /F.
    Not Administrator, was impossible to initialize Win7 in that mode,
    and (naturally) impossible to get into or use administrator mode.
    Ain't Win7 wonderful?
     
    Robert Baer, Feb 11, 2013
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  5. Robert Baer

    thekmanrocks Guest

    Baer:

    There is a 3-letter classification code that may be applied to Windows 7, based upon your experience:

    MAC.

    ;)
     
    thekmanrocks, Feb 11, 2013
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  6. Robert Baer

    Robert Baer Guest

    It works better there?
    SERIOUSLY doubt it.
     
    Robert Baer, Feb 12, 2013
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  7. Robert Baer

    Robert Baer Guest

    PartitionMagic and DriveCopy both tag it as *BAD*.
    Ghost barfs - too many MFT errors.
    Win7 does _not_ display the third partition (FAT32) i had created and
    filled with lotsa data and folders.
    Win2K mounted as Primary Master shows ALL FILES in ALL three
    partitions of the Win7 drive mounted as Primary Slave.
    WTF?
     
    Robert Baer, Feb 12, 2013
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  8. Robert Baer

    Paul Guest

    Welcome to the mixed world of CHS (DOS) disk offsets, and
    the "megabyte alignment" and LBA orientation of OSes like
    Windows 7.

    Older tools only understand CHS, and complain when they see a
    Windows 7 partition. An old disk, the first partition starts
    at sector 63. A Win7 hard drive, the first partition starts
    at 2048. 2048 is not divisible by 63, and tools like Partition
    Magic will bail when they see that.

    You'll need a mixture of old and new tools, to work on
    stuff like that. I've got no easy recipes for you,
    and a lot of learning is involved to make progress.
    Even the Linux tools, make it difficult to tell what's
    going on, and fix it right.

    And Windows 7 will display a FAT32 partition.

    Windows 7 just can't be installed on FAT32, because FAT32 has no
    security features, junction points, hard links and other
    NTFS features the OS is designed for. Windows 7 though,
    should be perfectly happy to display a data partition
    in FAT32.

    Paul
     
    Paul, Feb 21, 2013
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  9. Robert Baer

    Robert Baer Guest

    Thanks.
     
    Robert Baer, Feb 23, 2013
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