Windows Media Player 9 is a security risk

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by Steve Young, Oct 22, 2003.

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    Steve Young Guest

    Steve Young, Oct 22, 2003
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    Ron Hunter Guest

    Amusing, since Winamp doesn't do 1/10th what WMP9 does. Just keep up
    with the patches.
     
    Ron Hunter, Oct 22, 2003
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    donutbandit Guest

    Winamp does what it's supposed to do - play MP3 files. The fact that there
    are plug ins to make it do all sorts of other things is beside the point.

    Winamp is small - Winamp is highly configurable - Winamp is not a security
    risk in any way - Winamp is not a glorified do everything program who's
    real purpose is to help entrench DRM.

    You must not have read a word of the other threads before you posted this.

    The amusing thing will be when you discover one fine day that you can't
    play media on your computer without getting permission from Microsoft.
     
    donutbandit, Oct 22, 2003
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  4. Winamps media library functions are a joke, at least last time I tried it.

    Its built in video player is not too great either.

    And I really love the autoplaylists in wmp. ;)

    Also, none of my music has any drm in them, so when wmp demands that I do
    have all my music drm:ed I'll switch player. But until then I'll use it.
     
    Johan Appelgren, Oct 22, 2003
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    Ron Hunter Guest

    You compared Winamp with WMP9, and used the security aspect to badmouth
    WMP9 and to imply that Winamp was superior, or at least comparable. It
    simply IS NOT. And ANY program that is in common use, and accesses the
    internet IS a security risk.
     
    Ron Hunter, Oct 22, 2003
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    mrdancer Guest

    At least with Winamp, you can tell it not to access the internet.
    Of course, you can do that with WMP9, also, but then your IE/OE6 won't
    access the internet either. WTF is that all about?
     
    mrdancer, Oct 22, 2003
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    CQ Guest

    Ron Hunter said...
    What's wrong with doing that? As an mp3 player Winmamp is the much more
    intelligent choice. You may use the one that MS has spoon fed you if you
    like, but that doesn't make it a better mp3 player.
    Well, that sort of is one of the little teensy problems MS seems to have
    with a few of its contributions to the computing world.
    Right. Using an example of one specific reason. Giving reasons or
    examples is an age old way of making a point. How do you go about it?
    Oh, I see. You just use all caps and say what you want, expecting that
    to be compelling somehow. Got it now.
    This is no more true than anything else you are saying but I see you have
    used all caps in there again so you must be telling the truth.

    Just out of curiosity, why does a utility that is playing an mp3 on my
    computer, a file that is stored on my computer, need to access the
    internet at all to play that file? When I launch winamp, that is what I
    launch it to do. Play music. If I want to do any of the twenty odd
    other things this WMP thing will do (and prepares to do every time you
    launch it to do any one of them) then I use other apps that do them at
    least as well as WMP...ones that are no more of a security risk than
    Winamp, and ones that do not support the MS imperative to bring all
    computer users into their fold so they can continue to make profits off
    them long after they have sold them the OS.
     
    CQ, Oct 22, 2003
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    dadiOH Guest

    I thought that was what Office was for...

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    dadiOH, Oct 22, 2003
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    Ron Hunter Guest

    Actually, OE is NEVER loaded on my machine, and IE is used only for
    windows update and the rare website that won't work on Firebird/Mozilla.
    Not sure about why they would be related unless it is a firewall issue.
     
    Ron Hunter, Oct 22, 2003
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    Ron Hunter Guest

    I don't use WMP for playing mp3 files. It is allowed to play .avi and
    wmp files only.
    Winamp is a much simpler program. It doesn't do anything LIKE as much
    as WMP and isn't provided on every Windows computer sold, so it isn't as
    likely to attract the type of programmer who likes to find exploits in
    the MS software. I would expect that if sufficient attention were given
    to it, some avenues of entry could be located.

    Excuse me? You think that access to the internet isn't a risk? You
    must live on some other planet. Ask companies like Fidelity Investment
    why they won't email information..

    You complain about MS being a business and trying to make a profit? Are
    you into socialism? I agree that Winamp is a better tool for playing
    mp3 files, being specifically targeted at that purpose. You can haul a
    lot more fertilizer in a 2 ton truck than in the back of you VW, so you
    really should compare them.
     
    Ron Hunter, Oct 22, 2003
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    Ron Hunter Guest

    Tell me, what is wrong with a business making a profit? Is everyone
    around here a socialist?
     
    Ron Hunter, Oct 22, 2003
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    dadiOH Guest

    Nothing wrong with profit. Why, MS - who has more cash than it used to take
    to run the US for a year - has even started to pay a dividend to its owners.
    A small one. After 20 years.

    dadiOH
     
    dadiOH, Oct 22, 2003
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    mrdancer Guest

    I dunno. I just know that if WMP9 is loaded while either OE6 or IE6 is
    loaded, you can't take one offline without taking the other offline. The
    only way you can prevent it accessing the web while you're surfing with IE
    or emailing with OE is with a firewall.
     
    mrdancer, Oct 22, 2003
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    donutbandit Guest

    Who allows Winamp to access the Internet? Certainly not I. ;)
     
    donutbandit, Oct 22, 2003
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    CQ Guest

    Ron Hunter said...
    Well...umm.....I'm posting from an MP3 group and the whole context of the
    discussion here has been using these programs to play MP3. I'm not sure
    why one would compare WMP to Winamp unless one was using it for the same
    purpose but, hey, there are a lot of things I'm not sure about.

    For instance, I'm not sure why I let myself Xpost into all these other
    groups but I won't post anymore to them. Carry on, folks.
     
    CQ, Oct 22, 2003
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    mrdancer Guest

    I think few of us are against someone making a profit. What irks most of us
    is the way that Microsoft seems to be going about it. Many of their actions
    appear to be underhanded or sneaky. Whether that's true or not doesn't
    matter, since perception is reality. MS historical business practices have
    given it a black eye, and it will take a long time for many of us to trust
    them again.

    This same reasoning applies to the RIAA, which is probably the main reason
    so many of us are up in arms against them. If they truly came across as an
    honest entity that excelled in fair business practices, they wouldn't be in
    such hot water. As it is, they come across as bullies that are screwing
    over the artists and their customers all in the name of maximum profits.

    I'd rather pay an honest man $100 for a job well done, than pay a sneaky man
    $5 for the same job done.
     
    mrdancer, Oct 22, 2003
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Much ado 'bout nothing,.
     
    Alan Browne, Oct 22, 2003
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  18. But MickeySoft seems to have a monopoly on producing risky programs.
     
    David W. Poole, Jr., Oct 23, 2003
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  19. No, just opposed to dictatorships.
     
    David W. Poole, Jr., Oct 23, 2003
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    Max Burke Guest

    mrdancer scribbled:
    Nothing at all as I dont allow WMP9 to access the internet at all but IE
    and OE6 work just fine accessing the Internet.
    Turned off all the network options and for good measure denied it access
    to the internet in Zone Alarm....
     
    Max Burke, Oct 23, 2003
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