Windows Live Mail Source Edit?

Previous versions of Windows mail clients (Outlook Express in Win 9x and XP,
Windows Mail in Vista) have three tabs available at the bottom of
the new mail window (Edit, Source and Preview) which allow you to compose
your mail (the edit tab), view and edit the HTML source directly (the source
tab) and preview the result (in the preview tab.)

I've downloaded and am trying to get used to Windows Live Mail (the
standalone app that is available as part of the Windows Live initiative) and
would very much like to have back direct access to the "source" tab that was
available in previous MS mail products as mentioned above. I've looked
through help and Googled the question but no joy.

Anyone here using the Windows Live Mail desktop application know if "source"
editing is available within the application and if so, how I turn on the
ability to view it?

TIA

 

Umm no - mine doesn't, and I'm on XP SP2, fully patched....

 

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Outlook Express has never has those 3 view-mode tabs. You will have
to remember what you actually did use as your e-mail client.

 

Um...yeah...Outlook Express has had those tabs. Still does. I dual boot XP
and Vista and have downloaded Windows Live Mail for use with both. Not only
does Outlook Express have those tabs, so does the stock Windows Mail that
ships with Vista. Perhaps you don't know how to look for or turn on the
Edit/Source/Preview tabs but I assure you that they are available in Outlook
Express.

 

Yes, it does.

Go to View->Source Edit.

 

That's NOT what you said -

quoterevious versions of Windows mail clients (Outlook Express in Win
9x and XP, Windows Mail in Vista) have three
tabs available at the *bottom* of the new mail window unquote.

My emphasis.

 

Just to clarify: The Edit/Source/Preview tabs are not visible by default in
Outlook Express, you have to turn them on. Go to "View" and select "Source
Edit" and there they are. This has been a feature of Outlook Express as long
as I can remember.

Since I'm booted into XP at the moment, I'm not sure whether the source edit
function is on by default in Windows Mail (the native Vista client) but they
are also available there. (I use 'em.)

 

Well, when you turn them on are they *available* (my emphasis) or aren't
they? Seems to me that they are. Saying that they are not available (which
is the short version of your previous reply) would tend to suggest that the
feature doesn't it exist. Plainly it does.

Anyway, if you don't know the basics of an old application like Outlook
Express, it's not likely that you might have some useful insight into a new
application like Windows Live Mail. But thanks!

 

Absolutely. Your original post implied that they were there BY DEFAULT.
Well they aren't - you have to turn them on.

And where did I say they were not available? See above....

I've used OE since v4 and also Windows live Mail - which I don't like.

 

Nothing was implied. I said these tabs were available (they are), you said
they were not.

One of us was right.

 

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You also have to double the size of your e-mails to add superfluous
fluff to them by sending in HTML format. I only send in plain-text
mode. Once I tried sending in HTML format mode then View -> Source
Edit became enabled. I also use Outlook, and I always send in
plain-text from there, too. Wanting to send in HTML format mode when
not needed is just one step away from using Incredimail to send
e-mail.

Windows Live Mail has its own newsgroup:

microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

 

I only use HTML when appropriate. I am not a newbie to all these
internetwebtubie stuff.

^^^^^^^

Right. When "not needed", you are correct. Sometimes HTML is perfectly
appropriate (not for Usenet of course) and it isn't like we're back in the
days of dialup only.

Yep. Question was also posted there separately. Answer so far seems to be
that MS left source edit out of WLM...which is a bummer.

 

My question was about Windows Live Mail Desktop application, not Outlook
Express.

In Windows Live Mail, the option to view source when composing/editing HTML
mail is simply not available. So yeah...I'm saying that not only is the
View-->Edit Source menu disabled, it's freaking nonexistent (in Windows Live
Mail desktop application.)

 

Always wait until version II of any MS OS to use it...

 

Thank you!

I could not find that source edit anywhere, I was in plain text, you
need to be in HTML to do what Oxford Systems was saying.

Not that it matters, I only use OE for email from Gmail.com

 

Dunno if it will help in this case. I have several Microsofties now telling
me that they do not regard the ability to edit HTML source a needed or
otherwise necessary feature. I call it basic functionality. They call
it...not basic.

 

Right...because plain text is...well...plain text. There is no source to
render.

 

Ya, but you would at least expect the option to be viewable just not
selectable.