Wide format printer users here? (Epson, Canon, etc?)

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by GAH, Dec 18, 2003.

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    GAH Guest

    A friend of mine is an excellent photographer, and we've finally talked her
    into selling her work. She's going to take the plunge into a wide format
    printer (which is not something I know much about since I don't deal with
    them), so I'm looking for feedback from users.

    I know one person who owns an Epson 2200 who loves it, yet I've also read a
    few semi-negative comments from users of that model online who complain
    about "banding" on the 13x17 images. I've also read both great reviews on
    Epson 1280, but a few banding issues on that as well. The last choice would
    be the Canon i9100 printer, of which I've read stellar views but yet again,
    a few banding issues as well! Driving me nuts.... usually you can get a
    pretty consistent set of reviews when you look around enough on a product,
    but on these three items I've found from one extreme to the other regarding
    opinions of each one.

    Obviously, if she's going to sell her work, "banding" is NOT tolerable at

    Forgetting the one extra ink in the 2200 (she won't be doing black and white
    prints where this is supposed to be the biggest strength for that), who in
    here is using which model (or more than one) of these wide format printers,
    and what is your opinion of them regarding overall image quality and any
    banding issues you've seen? Speed is not an issue for her, and the new
    H.P. wide format printer is not an option as she's had horrible luck with
    H.P. printers in the past.

    Feedback is welcome on these. Thanks.
    GAH, Dec 18, 2003
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    Capt Nud Guest

    I've had really good luck with a 1280. But if she's going to sell her prints,
    the 2200 is the only way to go (longevity.)
    Capt Nud, Dec 18, 2003
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  3. I've had excellent results with my 2200, but to be fair I've not had it
    that long. I think one of the crucial things contributing to the banding
    problem is enabling the bidirectional printing (the "high speed" checkbox
    in the driver dialog). Disable this and accept the slower printing times
    for maximum print quality.
    James Gifford, Dec 18, 2003
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    GAH Guest

    So by doing this (turning off bi-directional printing), have you done any
    large prints yet and can say they are "band-free"?
    GAH, Dec 18, 2003
  5. I haven't seen any banding, but then, I followed the mfr recommendations
    and turned high speed printing off right at the start. It's on by default
    and it's kind of easy to overlook. MHO is that given the cost of 2200 paper
    and ink, and the desire for quality, there's never any reason to save a few
    minutes per print by enabling this feature.

    Perhaps someone has done back to back tests with this option enabled and
    disabled. I haven't.
    James Gifford, Dec 18, 2003
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    Bob Hatch Guest

    Epson does not consider the 2200 to be a wide format printer. True, it's a
    little bit bigger than a standard inkjet but 13" is not very big.

    To really do the kind of job a person would want she should not consider
    anything smaller than the new Epson 4000.
    Bob Hatch, Dec 18, 2003
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    Mark Herring Guest

    I use the 1280 and am about to switch it to MIS archival ink. bought
    and Epson 900 for the dye stuff (same cartridges as the 1280)

    If you dont need archival or roll paper or long panos, look at the
    Canon 9100, also. Faster than the Epsons.

    Or, put $1800 in a special savings account and wait for the Epson 4000
    Mark Herring, Pasadena, Calif.
    Private e-mail: Just say no to "No".
    Mark Herring, Dec 18, 2003
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    gsum Guest

    If she expects to sell quite a lot of work, the Epson
    7600 should be considered as it is cheaper to run
    and faster than the 2200, and is a real bargain at 2000
    UK pounds.
    Its a big heavy industrial strength beast though.

    gsum, Dec 18, 2003
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    Chris Brown Guest

    I have a 1290 (basically the same printer as the 1280) and have no issues
    with banding. The only real problem with this printer is the old Epson head
    clogging issue. Switchinh the printer on and *knowing* that I'm going to
    have to do 5-10 cleaning cycles before it will reliably fire all heads is
    very tedious.
    Chris Brown, Dec 18, 2003
  10. I have had a 1280 and now a 2200 & a 7600.

    None are perfect.

    1280 makes truely gorgeous prints that last (glossy paper) about 6-8
    months UNprotected.

    2200s have, reportedly, "Archival" inks and will last (for several
    years?), so far (8 months+) fading is not evident. BUT the 3D effect
    from pure white & pure black looks ... odd, to some viewrs.

    The 7600 MAY be faster than the 2200 (I won't bother to test that-
    should it really matter?) but prints the same as the 2200 (see
    comments above) and throws out a 1" x 24" slug every time!

    Chuck Tintera, Dec 18, 2003
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    Bill Hilton Guest

    From: "GAH"
    None of the 3 printers you mentioned have a banding problem, if used correctly.
    Literally thousands of people are selling prints made with them, especially
    the Epson 2200.

    If she wants to sell prints the two main concerns should be print quality and
    print longevity. You can buy sample prints from the Epsons and probably the
    Canon as well and compare directly, and for longevity the 2200 is the clear
    I have a 1280 and a 2200, and will be getting a 4000 soon, once they start
    shipping in January. When I get the 4000 I'm giving away the 1280, which tells
    you how I feel about the 2200 vs 1280. There are no banding issues, if you use
    the printers correctly, I feel.

    Bill Hilton, Dec 18, 2003
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    gsum Guest

    Speed matters if you're producing a lot of prints.

    If you are getting 1 inch of waste from the 7600,
    you have the old driver. The new driver is more
    accurate and is reputed to use less ink. It can be
    downloaded from the Epson site.

    I find that 1290 and 7600 prints are indistinguishable
    from each other on gloss, except for a very small
    amount bronzing with the 7600. The 7600 is *much*
    better than the 1290 with matte paper.

    gsum, Dec 18, 2003
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    Don Stauffer Guest

    I recently bought the Canon 9000. If one can still find them, they are
    real cheap as they are replaced by the 9100. I am well satisified with
    mine, and have noticed no banding.
    Don Stauffer, Dec 18, 2003
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