Which cameras have real Image Stabilization?

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by Don Wiss, Jun 24, 2005.

  1. Don Wiss

    Don Wiss Guest

    A friend is in the market for a new digital camera. He wants to spend under
    $900. We have agreed that real image stabilization is a must have feature.
    Has anyone a list of which camera models have IS so one can then compare
    those to see which suit his needs?

    Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
    Don Wiss, Jun 24, 2005
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  2. Don Wiss

    Dizzledorf Guest


    got me:

    This is a list of ultra (8x+) zooms, image stabilization / "vibration
    reduction" only as noted -- missing are the older S1 IS and brand new
    Sony H-1.

    this was on page 1 as well:

    Dizzledorf, Jun 24, 2005
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  3. David J Taylor, Jun 24, 2005
  4. Don Wiss

    PLONK! Guest

    Check out this page:
    PLONK!, Jun 24, 2005
  5. Don Wiss

    Don Wiss Guest

    Ah, wonderful. That is my favorite site for checking out features, but I
    was unaware of that page.

    I see that for some of them for IS they have "Yes, CCD." I recall a recent
    article in either the NY Times or WSJ (?) where they compared some IS
    cameras and some had IS that wasn't as good as others. That is why I used
    the words real IS in my request.

    Thanks, Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
    Don Wiss, Jun 24, 2005
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    John Bean Guest

    Most IS systems use lens optics to achieve stabilisation,
    but Konica Minolta move the sensor instead. Both work.

    I've owned a KM A2 and a Panasonic FZ1. The A2 "anti shake"
    is better at normal focal lengths and very slow shutter
    speeds than the FZ, the FZ is better at longer focal lengths
    but at not quite so low speeds. The difference is not great,
    both work very well indeed.
    John Bean, Jun 24, 2005
  7. I guess there are at least three forms of IS:

    1 - electronically shifting the CCD data after exposure. This is mainly
    used in video cameras, although I know the Nikon 8400 can do this in video

    2 - move the sensor: some Minolta cameras can do this, including their
    interchangeable lens SLR, so you get IS added to all your lenses.

    3 - move elements in the lens. The most common and has been applied both
    to point-and-shoot, e.g. Nikon 8800, Panasonic FZ20, and SLR lenses from
    both Nikon and Canon (anyone else?).

    I would regard real IS as comprising methods 2 and 3, and I've seen
    nothing to suggest that one is significantly better than the other.
    Personally I have the Panasonic FZ5, my wife has the Panasonic FZ20, but
    the Canon S2 IS might be another contender.

    David J Taylor, Jun 24, 2005
  8. John Bean wrote:
    That's interesting. I tested an A2, and rejected it partially because the
    "anti-shake" indication said it wouldn't work at low shutter speeds (it
    changed colour as I recall). I'm delighted with the FZ5 I now have.

    With the A2, moving the sensor, at longer focal lengths the sensor would
    have a greater distance to move to correct a given pointing error. I
    wonder if that's why it doesn't work as well?

    David J Taylor, Jun 24, 2005
  9. Don Wiss

    John Bean Guest

    The light changes colour at a fixed shutter speed. It's a
    gimmick, it has no effect whatsoever on the IS performance,
    it means nothing more than "the shutter speed is low".
    That's my guess too. But it was astonishingly good for
    hand-holding in low light conditions at normal to wide focal
    John Bean, Jun 24, 2005
  10. John Bean wrote:
    Thanks, John. It's a gimmick that cost Konica-Minolta a sale, together
    with the tinny construction of the swivel LCD finder and its limited
    travel, poor JPEG image quality, and other issues. I lost faith in the
    company. It's a pity, because the EVF was first-class (sadly dropped on
    newer models).

    David J Taylor, Jun 24, 2005
  11. Don Wiss

    Don Wiss Guest

    He is looking at the two of them that have external flash. Only having
    owned Nikon digital cameras I don't know how external flashes work with
    others. Do they have something like the Nikon TTL that shuts off the flash
    when the picture has enough light? Then each has a special flash that it
    communicates with?

    Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
    Don Wiss, Jun 28, 2005
  12. Sorry, Don, I don't know. I gave up lugging a flashgun around when I
    moved from film SLRs to digital seven years ago.

    David J Taylor, Jun 28, 2005
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