What the heck does APS really mean?

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by Charles Schuler, Mar 5, 2004.

  1. Active pixel sensor? A standard for digital sensor sizes? Ratios of width
    to height ... APS-C (3:2), APS-H(16:9), APS-P(3:1)? Some articles refer to
    APS sensors as a standard (as if there was only one type/size). Is this
    really messy or am I just dense (been known to happen). Thanks for your
    Charles Schuler, Mar 5, 2004
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    John Navas Guest

    [POSTED TO rec.photo.digital - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <> on Fri, 5 Mar 2004 18:04:13 -0500,
    John Navas, Mar 5, 2004
  4. Advanced Photo System- a film format developed in the 1990s by Kodak and
    Fuji (under the Advantix and Nexia brands). Also know as 24mm, and often
    signified by the letters IX. Main selling point was ease of use- just drop
    the film canister in the chamber and let 'em go (despite this, it's amazing
    how many people ask camera store staff to fit the film for them). Kodak
    saturation-advertising actually led the majority of consumers to believe
    that APS offered a quality improvement over 35mm, despite the smaller frame
    size, and still there are plenty of people seemingly willing to pay 50-100%
    extra for the development of APS films. Canon, Nikon and Minolta all
    produced SLRs based around this format, and all of which can be found for
    absolute bargain-basement prices on the used and old-stock markets. The
    captured image was basically the APS-H size, with options to have it cropped
    at the printing stage to APS-C or APS-P as set on-camera or by request at
    reprint. The APS name might live beyond APS itself, as the APS frame is
    similar in size to the frames on many DSLRs. The Canon 18-50mm lens packaged
    with the Digital Rebel is seemingly derived from a similar lens designed for
    APS format film SLRs. Oddly, Nikon made some APS SLR-only IX-Nikkors which
    don't work with any other Nikon SLRs... not even the DSLRs with which they
    share a frame size.
    Martin Francis, Mar 5, 2004
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    MikeS Guest

    same size prints as per 35mm. Which film makers used on 35 mm film and doing
    so inmproved 35mm film. Aps is history except the its size is use on DLSR's
    such as the canon 10d and 300d, Nikon 100 and D70 etc.
    MikeS, Mar 5, 2004
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    Ed Guest

    Developed using finer grain? What kind of BS is this? Simply put APS stands
    for another person screwed. Even Kodak has dropped out of the APS market.
    Was and still is a flop. Other famous flops were 126, 110, 127 etc.
    Ed, Mar 6, 2004
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    Ron Andrews Guest

    This is OT for the digital group, but you may as well get the straight
    There's no BS! The print grain index for Advantix 200 at 6.5x
    magnification is 45:


    The print grain index for Gold 200 at 4.4x magnification is 47:


    This is essentially the same grain at higher magnification. That means the
    Advantix film has finer grain.

    If 126, 110, and 127 were flops, then what do you consider a success?
    127 far outsold 135 in the 50's. Same story for 126 in the 60's and 110 in
    the 70's. It wasn't until the 80's that 135 became the dominant amateur film
    format. Disc on the other hand...
    Ron Andrews, Mar 6, 2004
  8. However the "transparent" ferrite coating, and the 40% smaller negative add
    to the "grainy look"
    ~ Darrell Larose ~, Mar 6, 2004
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    Sloopy Guest

    Sloopy, Mar 6, 2004
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    Ron Andrews Guest

    Granted, the smaller negative offsets the finer grain film so you end
    up about the same for grain. The iron oxide coating adds a little density,
    but the particles are so small that they don't add graininess. If you have a
    microscope handy, look at the minimum area outside the image. You should see
    some graininess. Now scrape of the emulsion and look at the base. See any
    grain now?
    Ron Andrews, Mar 6, 2004
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    Aguyathome Guest


    Wasn't advanced enough to catch on though.
    Aguyathome, Mar 6, 2004
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