What OS did Iran use? Stuxnet malware

Discussion in 'Computer Security' started by RayLopez99, Dec 22, 2010.

  1. My understanding is that Stuxnet is a Windows-specific virus. Where
    does Linux enter into it?
     
    Edward A. Falk, Dec 22, 2010
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  2. RayLopez99

    RayLopez99 Guest

    Yes, you are correct. Linux does not enter into it. But had the
    Israelis wanted to penetrate Linux, they could have. After all this
    virus was one of the most sophisticated ever, see below. And it
    spread via a classic "zero-day"attack.

    RL


    This kind of service can extend the life of outdated malware, or
    extend the time new threats stay
    undetected. However, the use of such technologies to resist detection
    by antivirus software can be used
    as a heuristic for the detection of previously unknown samples. But
    the converse case also holds true:
    avoiding using any techniques aimed at bypassing antivirus software
    and making the program resemble
    legitimate software more closely can be a way of protecting malware.
    This is the case with the attack
    mechanism used by the Stuxnet worm

    The Stuxnet attack constituted a serious threat to trust in software
    using legal digital signatures. This
    creates a problem for white-listing, where security software is based
    on the a priori assumption that a
    trusted program meets certain conditions and is therefore indeed
    trustworthy. And what if the program
    closely resembles legitimate software and even has digital
    certificates for installed modules published in
    the name of reputable companies? All this suggests that targeted
    attacks could persist much longer over
    time than we previously imagined. Stuxnet was able to stay undetected
    for a substantial period where
    no one saw anything suspicious. The use of a self-launching, 0-day
    vulnerability in the attack allowed the
    rapid distribution of Stuxnet in the targeted region. The choice of
    this kind of vulnerability is quite
    deliberate, because in the absence of information about its existence,
    use of the exploit will not be
    detected. All these facts suggest a well-planned attack which remained
    unnoticed until long after it was
    launched. But it is precisely the existence of such threats that
    inspires us to look at the new vector and
    the possibility of attacks that use it, in order to reduce the impact
    of future attacks.
     
    RayLopez99, Dec 22, 2010
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  3. Seeing as the virus/malware was installed via legitimate methods, ie:
    it was trusted, I don't see how any OS comes into play here.

    Another worthless shot at Linux by RayLopez99, noted...
     
    Norman Peelman, Dec 22, 2010
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    Peter Foldes Guest

    Hey BD

    Another name you pulled out of the hat?? LunchBox ? Sounds like you are hungry

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    Peter Foldes, Dec 23, 2010
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    Clogwog Guest

    Please tell the Iranian Ayatollah's how they might remove Stuxnet with a
    GNU/Linux install CD or USB drive?, fsckwit!
    All that leaving them with a completely functional Atomic Energy plant and
    without a set back in Iran’s nuclear program.
    They might grant you 34 beautiful brides in heaven for that, maybe the Nobel
    prize as well.
     
    Clogwog, Dec 23, 2010
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    JEDIDIAH Guest

    One seriously wonders why they didn't just use a proper OS like QNX for
    this sort of thing to begin with...

    WinDOS is a TOY that has no business in a nuclear facility.
     
    JEDIDIAH, Dec 23, 2010
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  7. RayLopez99

    Clogwog Guest


    Stupid Jed at it again, LMFAO!!
    Siemens, who delivered the software to Iran, does not use Unix, Linux,
    whatever!
     
    Clogwog, Dec 23, 2010
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  8. Or anywhere, but if its all you know...
     
    The Natural Philosopher, Dec 23, 2010
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  9. RayLopez99

    JEDIDIAH Guest

    I said QNX you ignorant "mere consumer".
     
    JEDIDIAH, Dec 23, 2010
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  10. RayLopez99

    Clogwog Guest

    I said "whatever" (crapware), are you retarded or something?
     
    Clogwog, Dec 23, 2010
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  11. Exactly "The Zionists are the source of every evil" and I am everything
    but surprised that the insane RayDopez666 supports their outraged hatred.
     
    Marti van Lin, Dec 23, 2010
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  12. RayLopez99

    Clogwog Guest


    Thank God for Microsoft and it's "unlimited possibilities" ;-)
    Stuxnet has prevented a war in the Middle East, setting back Iran at least 2
    years in it's nuclear ambitions.
    --
    Unix guru Andy Tanenbaum wrote:
    [q]
    "most attackers think hitting Windows offers a bigger bang for the buck so
    Windows simply gets attacked more."
    [/q]
    http://lists.virus.org/securecoding-0405/msg00035.html
     
    Clogwog, Dec 23, 2010
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    JEDIDIAH Guest

    All that proves is that even a CIS professor is capable of making
    foolish statements that contradict reality outside of academia.
     
    JEDIDIAH, Dec 23, 2010
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  14. RayLopez99

    JEDIDIAH Guest

    No. You're just a rube consumer.
     
    JEDIDIAH, Dec 23, 2010
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  15. RayLopez99

    Clogwog Guest

    All that proves is that you are outwitted 100 times by a laurelled professor
    of computer science!, you twit!
    Awards:
    Fellow of the ACM
    Fellow of the IEEE
    Member of the Royal Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences
    Coauthor of the Best Paper Award at the LADC Conference, 2009
    Winner of a 2.5 million euro European Research Council Advanced Grant, 2008
    USENIX Flame Award 2008 [13] for his many contributions to systems design
    and to openness both in discussion and in source.
    Coauthor of the Best Paper Award at the Real-Time and Network Systems Conf.,
    2008
    Coauthor of the Best Paper Award at the USENIX LISA Conf., 2006
    Coauthor of the Best Paper for High Impact at the IEEE Percom Conf., 2006
    Winner of the 2010 TAA McGuffey award for classic textbooks for Modern
    Operating Systems
    Winner of the 2007 IEEE James H. Mulligan, Jr. Education Medal[14]
    Academy Professor, 2004
    Winner of the 2003 TAA McGuffey award for classic textbooks for Computer
    Networks
    Winner of the 2002 TAA Texty Award for new textbooks
    Winner of the 1997 ACM SIGCSE for contributions to computer science
    education
    Winner of the 1994 ACM Karl V. Karlstrom Outstanding Educator Award
    Coauthor of the 1984 ACM SOSP Distinguished Paper Award
     
    Clogwog, Dec 26, 2010
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    RayLopez99 Guest

    That's true. You don't want to let the nuclear genie out of the
    bottle anymore than it already has: US, ex-USSR, France, UK, Israel,
    China, Pakistan (!)--absurd that Pakistan has the bomb, which has a
    GDP less than Greece which has fewer than one-tenth the population--
    but I digress, India. South Africa, Libya, a few South American
    countries (Brazil, Argentina) gave up. North Korea has bomb making
    materials but they have not exploded properly any atomic weapon.

    Why not let the nuclear genie out of the bottle? Because of a well-
    kept (but well known) secret: nuclear war is survivable! No
    kidding. Contrary to popular belief, if you don't go "all out" and
    unleash your entire nuclear arsenal, a limited nuclear war is very
    effective and quite survivable. A few million (at most) casualties, a
    few million more long-term cancer deaths, but you can pretty much have
    your way. If for example North Korea were to wipe out Kyoto with a
    nuclear weapon, as a demonstration of their power, and they had a
    dozen more such weapons and the means to quickly deliver them to
    Tokyo, population 30M, you can bet Japan will fold to whatever Korea
    wanted--including billions of dollars a year in ransom for
    perpetuity. And BTW if the North Koreans had long-range
    intercontinental ballistic weapons that could reach the west coast of
    America I seriously doubt the USA would come to Japan's aid--likely
    the US would urge calm, restraint and peace negotiations with the
    ransom paid as 'foreign aid' by the US. War would become "economical"
    again, just like it was before the advent of mass-killing technology
    of the 20th century.

    That's why you don't want any more kooks owning nuclear weapons. If
    Egypt gets the bomb, and if the Muslim Brotherhood ever wins in that
    country, you can bet that if right-wing-settlers are in power in
    Israel that a nuclear war using tactical nuclear weapons between the
    two countries is very possible (kill zone = 1 km, casualties a couple
    of hundred thousand, not a big deal for Egypt or even Israel).
    Actually true even if fanatics take over Israel's nuclear arsenal.
    I've talked to more than a few who want to wipe Mecca off the face of
    the earth--they are serious. Lobbying a nuclear bomb there is not out
    of the question to these fanatics.

    RL
     
    RayLopez99, Dec 26, 2010
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