What is the word on an update to the DRebel with the release of the 20D???

I was going to buy a Drebel, but now I am thinking I should wait.

What's the word??

Thanks,

Amy

 

Several:
1.) Don't!

2.) Good idea!
because:
a.
b.
c.
3.) Wait for what?

It's moot that the D-Rebel will at some point be superseded by a better
camera at about the same price point, and that's also true for virtually
every camera and computer ever made. Better, faster more storage,
features etc. for same or even less money down the road.

But the D-rebel will still take great pix 3 years from now, and you can
get your 24 MP full sensor D 50 (Ooops, the next no. already exists, no?
the D 60) with GPS and all for $1200.00. Give or take a few magnitudes.

 

Well given Canon has just announced the 20D, I suspect that they won't replace
the drebel until at least spring. Besides, how much room for stripping down
features is left? The drebel is already pretty stripped down IMHO.

 

Word is, if you keep waiting for the next model up, you'll never take any
photographs. The Digital Rebel (300D) is a fine camera, and a couple extra
million pixels and AF points won't make you any better or worse at taking
pictures, and no-one is going to peer at your superb shots and say "hmm,
that's not really high enough resolution". If they do, inform them that
there's a guy standing *just over there* who is still using a D30, that'll
get rid of 'em.

FWIW, I don't think there will be a DRebel 2 this year.

 

It's less than a year old, I wouldn't expect an update until at least Spring
'05.

Mark

 

The 20D is the Drebel update. It's got the drebel's flash, the drebel's
noisy shutter, the drebel's lens mount, the drebel's body size/weight, the
drebel's overly aggressive default jpeg settings.

David J. Littleboy

Tokyo, Japan

 

Sounds like another whiney 10D owner speaking......

 

Whiney but correct; nuttin' wrong with dat.

Clyde Torres

 

No update for probably a year. I would expect a price drop to compete with
the new USD $900 (MSRP) Pentax dSLR.

 

Due to economies of scale, I suspect Canon will cut the price to compete
price wise with the new $900 USD (MSRP) Pentax dSLR...

 

....he said with sarcasm.

Mark

 

Digital Rebel isn't discontinued, 10D is. Besides, if it was the DReb
update it would have been priced accordingly. Not to mention the magnesium
alloy body among other things.

Mark

 

Thicker skin, bro, thicker skin.

But you are correct in that the 20D is a replacement for the 10D, not the
DeeRebel. That was a good catch.

Clyde Torres

 

SNIP

The common denominator in the Canon model numbers is the number of
digits represents a quality level. The 4 digit numbers are entry
(D)SLRs, 3 digit ones have more features, 2 digit ones are prosumer
versions, single digit ones are pro grade models.

That is, until they deside to adopt another numbering scheme.

Bart
Bart

 

I was going to fire a return volley, until I noticed your "email" address!
;-) But the 20D is hardly the same weight as the DRebel...

 

Yes, the reduced weight doesn't get it down to Rebel weight.

Still, reading through the reviews I found myself reminded more of the Rebel
than the 10D. I suppose that's natural, since the Rebel is not only the more
recent camera, but with efficiencies of scale, the parts should be
cheaper<g>.

I bought the 300D last month, and haven't had that much time to play with
it, but one shot (with my cheapest lens: the Tamron 28-75/2.8) was so sharp
and clear at 100% pixels that I was almost in tears. 12MP of that quality
pixels really would be in excess of 645 quality, despite the claims of the
insanely crazed film scanning types who think they are seeing real detail at
5400 dpi.

David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan

 

SNIP

Congratulations with the new family member...

LOL, I assume you mean me, as we've disagreed before about the amount
of detail/resolution that lies dormant in a good film image.

May I friendly suggest that you don't get overconfident with your new
camera. Overconfidence usually leads to foot-in-mouth disease ;-).
I've analyzed a few image samples available on the web, and condensed
some of the information in this graph (I know it's filled with too
many lines):
http://www.xs4all.nl/~bvdwolf/main/foto/Imatest/SFR_Graphs.png

It shows the measured MTFs of a few camera models, adjusted for equal
output size by using the same criterion as DPreview does; Line Widths
per Image Height. The triangles are at the Nyquist limit. Any
significant modulation (say >10%) beyond Nyquist will result in
visible aliasing.
It shows that the 1Ds and Provia 100 scanned at 5400 ppi have similar
performance, but with a bit of sharpening the scan shows *much* higher
resolution (although combined with graininess, if not reduced).

I can hear you thinking, what does that combination mean for final
image quality, what about graininess/noise?

Simple, if you do a similar experiment as I proposed at earlier
occasions, and blow up (a crop of ) the DSLR result (e.g. a 300D file
to 249.12%) to a poster size of 17.0x25.5 inch (43.2x64.8cm) @300ppi,
then compare with this:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~bvdwolf/main/foto/Imatest/100mmJTF00010.png
The target was shot with a Canon f/2.8 100mm Macro lens, at about 3
metres distance which resulted in an almost 1:30 reduction factor on
film, small enough to exceed the target's resolution limit.

A visible central blur diameter of some 60 pixels in the unsharpened
scan at final output size(!) is common (steady shot with good lens),
with some sharpening a few additional pixels may become visible (but
graininess will also become more visible). The subject contrast was
average to low, due to sub-optimal lighting (but we often don't get an
opportunity to pick the real-life situation either, in fact it was
shot between rain showers and has some sky reflections).

Bart