Want to play Doom 3?

Discussion in 'Computer Information' started by JK, Aug 4, 2004.

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    Plato Guest

    Right. Wolfenstein came before d00m, but d00m was the biggy. Duke 3D
    came after d00m. At the time d00m first came out all you had was Duke
    2d, which wasn't that easy BTW.
     
    Plato, Aug 5, 2004
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    Plato Guest

    I believe that's correct.
     
    Plato, Aug 5, 2004
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    Jim Berwick Guest

    My XP3200+ is fine for now, not spending $50 on the game and then spending
    another $500 on hardware to play it. I don't care that I'm only "mediocre"
     
    Jim Berwick, Aug 5, 2004
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    Justin Guest



    I'm glad that Bicycle Casino/card games is about the extent of my PC
    gaming. My crappy video card -- a built in ProSavage -- kicks ass when
    it comes to Bicycle Casino!
     
    Justin, Aug 5, 2004
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    kony Guest

    Minimum spec from ID is a Geforce 4 MX. A Radeon 9600 may not be
    substantially better than the TI4400. Radeon 9700 might be a
    more reasonable minimum spec for 1024x768 or higher res.
     
    kony, Aug 6, 2004
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  6. Nope, the video card is killing you there.. Even in my A64 3000+ & ATI
    Radeon 9600XT, I just have to run the game in 800x600 + medium quality in
    order to enjoy smooth gameplay. The game is ridicules, you pretty much need
    the latest greatest to enjoy it at higher res/quality.

    Carlo
     
    Carlo Razzeto, Aug 6, 2004
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    Alex Johnson Guest

    Well, yes. I said for "acceptable performance". The review I saw
    showed GeForce4 based stuck at 640x480, Radeon 9600 doing 800x600, and
    Radeon 9800 and GF-FX cards handling 1024x768. I think I'll be in the
    640x480 group with my current video card (a 64MB GF4). If I get so fed
    up with that, I'll probably move to a Radeon 9800 Pro 256 (currently
    $235 at Xtreme Gear). Except for Doom 3, and Half-life 2 coming up, I'd
    still be using my old Pentium III with integrated graphics without
    complaint.

    Alex
     
    Alex Johnson, Aug 6, 2004
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    kony Guest

    I threw a GF4 TI4200 128MB, into same system I'd tested with a
    GF3... card was overclocked but it was a particularly poor
    overclocker and harder to mod for voltage increase
    (!@#$%Chaintech!@#$%). The GF4 running at 280 core & 570 memory
    was fast enough to run at 800x600 with Display Properties/Driver
    set to "fastest"... Somewhere around here I also have a different
    GF4 with only 64MB mem but that overclocks better, will be
    interesting to see which helps a GF4 more... though IIRC it was
    mainly an issue of the quality level, that a 64MB card was
    limited to low quality mode.

    At least now that we have demanding games it should help lower
    resale value of many older video cards... even those who can't or
    won't spend hundreds of $$$ on gaming will have a better chance
    of playing older games.
     
    kony, Aug 6, 2004
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    ~misfit~ Guest

    Now that would be nice. I have a few machines on my LAN that have the CPU
    power but not the graphics power to play some games. We get friends or
    visitors come over, see one of us playing something and want to play
    themselves. However we only have crap S3 Trio 2D/3D 8MB AGP cards in the
    other machines. People want an arm and a leg even for second-hand GF2's
    (Although the last two GF2MX400's I bought died, maybe they weren't a good
    'keeper', I know of others who have had GF2's die on them, just out of
    warranty).
     
    ~misfit~, Aug 7, 2004
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  10. I have already seen GF4 MX cards going for $20 australian, even tho it's
    a shit card it will play most games up to and including doom3 (tho only
    on 640x480 ;)).

    -Steve
     
    Stephen Gordon, Aug 7, 2004
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    ~misfit~ Guest

    I'm in NZ, where would I find these $20 GF4 MX's? Any on-line places? A
    couple of those would be great for the 'extra' machines. (Mainly used for
    SETI or internet connection etc. It seems a shame to have a 1.6Ghz
    (Tualatin) CPU just handling a modem and playing mp3s).

    Cheers,
     
    ~misfit~, Aug 7, 2004
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  12. I've got a Nvidia GeForce4 MX 440, and while I'm not a heavy gamer, it will
    hold up to Unreal Tournament 2004, all the bells and whistles turned on, at
    800X600, and if you turn off some of the detail, it will play at 1024X768.
    I've found out that if I can keep the card under 40º C, I *can* turn on all
    detail and play at 1024X768 with no problem.

    MC
     
    Moderately Confused, Aug 7, 2004
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    Plato Guest

    I dont know if pci fancards are still for sale but I used to use them
    sometimes to cool hot running video cards. This was pretty much right
    before they started putting fans on the video cards themselves. My guess
    is that a case fan may do the same thing these days ie bring in cool air
    for the video fans to use. Most of the trouble I see these days with
    games and overheating is when folks buy these spanking new systems and
    put them in their enclosed pc desk ie the kind that have just a hole in
    the back and door on front. I bet you could toast a burger bun on top of
    some of those setups :)
     
    Plato, Aug 7, 2004
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  14. This was on offer second hand, the retail prices I can find are ~$60
    australian. If you have a look in a local 'trading post' publication tho
    I daresay you will find a GF4 MX for a similar price though, there are a
    lot of them around and people are upgrading to the new product lines.

    -Steve
     
    Stephen Gordon, Aug 8, 2004
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    ~misfit~ Guest

    Okay, thanks. I have a nephew in Melbourne, Kyzen, who runs LAN parties,
    (LAN X: http://www.lanx.org.au/) and he's always telling me how cheap
    second-hand or older gear is in Aussie. I must fire off an email to him and
    see if he has the time to look around for me.

    Cheers,
     
    ~misfit~, Aug 8, 2004
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    Overlord Guest

    Before fans on vid cards I used to install a slot fan on the heatsink side of the
    vid card. Given the right dimensions it would lay against the heatsink just right
    and suck air thru the heatsink and out the back of the case. Fast, cheap, and
    effective way to cool the card especially given the dead area where the GPU
    sits.
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    Overlord, Aug 8, 2004
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    Overlord Guest

    DOH!

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    Overlord, Aug 8, 2004
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    ~misfit~ Guest

    <G>. I've done that too. I've even used one against the back of a card
    (there was a slot in the case above the AGP slot) as the back of the
    card/under the GPU was getting damn hot, even though it had a good HSF on
    the other side.
     
    ~misfit~, Aug 8, 2004
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    Michael-NC Guest

    Playing on a XP2800 Barton, 1 GB ram, GF5900 128MB and much less revelant a
    2-75GB Raptor raid 0 array, I get 45 FPS in timedemo 1.
     
    Michael-NC, Aug 8, 2004
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  20. Yup, I've got one of those PCI slot blowers stuck right up next to the card.
    When I didn't have it, I would get some skipping/freezing when playing
    videos.

    MC
     
    Moderately Confused, Aug 8, 2004
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