Wanna Job?

Discussion in 'A+ Certification' started by Ghost, Aug 27, 2003.

  1. Ghost

    jonny bravo Guest

    Well it's not just the cold really..there is absolutely no entry level
    tech jobs here...
    Actually there are no decent jobs to be had...we got over 5000 laid off
    steel workers in
    the last 2 years plus other industry lay offs... this has made it an
    employers market..and they are
    getting away with paying minimal wages and no benefits cuz everyone is so
    desperate...
    Right now I can't get a job in my field (colorants for plastic paint ink
    etc.) for 12 months
    cuz I signed a non-compete agreement with my former employer... errggg...
    and they stick ya to it...
    Anyway I still get my computer fix-it side jobs, which I generally get from
    being a part-time carpet layer...
    Me: hey nice computer sir...
    Sir: I been having problems with it...
    Me: mind if i take a look...
    Sir: y'know computers???
    Bag the job cuz I'm already in the house...:)

    Jonny Bravo
    ever resourceful..but wishing I had beer money for the long weekend ;(
     
    jonny bravo, Aug 30, 2003
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    Ghost Guest

    Maybe I should come up there with you Tom...
     
    Ghost, Aug 30, 2003
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  3. Ghost

    Ghost Guest

    Pregnant wife? well, New Port Richey is not the place for you young
    man... lol... it is VERY hard to earn a decent living down here-
    expecially while trying to raise a family...
     
    Ghost, Aug 30, 2003
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    Pat Guest

    With this you're into another part of service calls entirely. A person
    could be unsurpassed in technical skills, but their people skills, including
    their ability to communicate and decipher what a person's actually asking of
    them, is a large part of whether or not you get repeat business.
     
    Pat, Aug 31, 2003
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    techshare Guest

    Sorry Ghost ... but it must be your offer. There are TONS of qualified
    American candidates roaming the streets looking for work. The majority have
    been kicked from companies they used to work for and replaced by dirty NIA
    Indians for no good reason (not even the pay!). What are you ready to pay a
    qualified candidate?

    PS. As for the ones that can't speak English ... for shame to give them even
    5 more minutes of your time and attention. Whatever you do, please don't
    hire an NIA worker.
     
    techshare, Sep 3, 2003
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    Ghost Guest

    Not here in New Port Richey, FL. I had had about 25 applicants so far,
    and only one would be considerd qualified by anyone's standard. Most had
    no experience whatsoever, or even a working knowledge of computers. Yet,
    they tink nothing of asting my time and theirs applying for a job they
    cannot do.

    We really do not have that much of that kind of a problem here.
     
    Ghost, Sep 3, 2003
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  7. Ghost

    Guest Guest


    How come there are not that many qualified techs in FL?
    What I'm refering to is someone that is at least trainable.

    Gary
     
    Guest, Sep 4, 2003
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  8. Ghost

    jonny bravo Guest

    It's only gonna get worse when the Bushies take away Overtime....
     
    jonny bravo, Sep 4, 2003
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    techshare Guest

    Again, sorry ... but this is absurd. It is an undeniable fact that there are
    scores of qualified (if not overqualified) IT workers roaming the streets
    everywhere (yes, even in New Port Richey).

    However, even with a tight economy ... you get what you pay for! You still
    haven't stated your salary/hourly range. A good known example of this is
    CompUSA. Look at the clowns behind that service counter! Now, I heard that
    the *most* a "top" tech makes at CompUSA is $12/hour (FL, Orlando Metro).
    Actually, these guys could be professional clowns and make more than that
    .... so now I don't get as angry at them when I stop in for parts.

    Since you haven't stated any numbers, I will. I guarantee if you post a wage
    (based on experience) between $15-$20 per hour ... you will get some decent
    candidates. After all, what would you expect a decent technician to work
    for? He has to pay rent/mortgage and eat too!
     
    techshare, Sep 4, 2003
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    Guest Guest

    For $15-20 I might move to FL!
     
    Guest, Sep 4, 2003
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    techshare Guest

    Whatever. The fact that a thread like this has gotten this much attention is
    actually insulting to the scores of displaced IT workers looking for new
    work. Claiming that you can't find a qualified candidate in today's tech
    economy is just horsesh*t. Once more, if you are trying to take advantage of
    the bad economy by "offering" below average wage ... you should be ashamed
    of yourself.
     
    techshare, Sep 4, 2003
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    Ghost Guest

    You misunderstood...

    For me, on time is on time- period! While I prefer to be a bit early, but
    it is not a requirement.

    I do not take advantage of my employees. And at the same time, I will no
    allow my employees to take advantage of me...
     
    Ghost, Sep 4, 2003
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    Ghost Guest


    How come there are not that many qualified techs in FL?
    What I'm refering to is someone that is at least trainable.

    Gary[/QUOTE]

    I dunno... and it probably doesnt extend to the whole state- but I am not
    in a large metropolitan area... I am north of Tampa and St
    Pete/Clearwater- close, but not close enough o be part of the wider reach
    of qualified techs.
     
    Ghost, Sep 4, 2003
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    Ghost Guest



    Shit, for $15-20 an hour *I* would take the job!!! lol
     
    Ghost, Sep 4, 2003
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    Ghost Guest



    Techshare..

    you might want to tone things down a bit- especially since you do not know
    the area, or anything else about it.

    I have had a total of about 25 applicants in the last month. Most were
    complete morons- and I previously posted the kind of applicants I have
    been getting- and that is before money was ever mentioned.

    If I were to advertise $15 to $20 an hour like you so niavely suggested, I
    would have a thousand applicant- all of whom would be equally
    unqualified. The difference would be that all the lazy unqualified idiots
    would apply just on the hopes they can land a job paying like that.
     
    Ghost, Sep 4, 2003
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  16. Ghost

    techshare Guest

    OK, is this the f*ckin twilight zone?!

    A) List the requirements for the job. Be as detailed as you can be!
    B) State the wage or range of pay your company is willing to pay for this
    position.
    C) With A and B out of the way, we can talk about the quality of said
    candidates.

    This guy hasn't even done the basics. He has the balls to come on here and
    moan about supposed candidates for a position that hasn't even been defined.
    For all we know, he might be looking to pay 10 bucks an hour for a
    "qualified" "trainable" computer technician. He may have posted the position
    in the local paper with just as vague of a description. What kind of "good"
    candidates would you expect to show up for such nonsense?!

    I still can't believe this message has obtained this many replies. Of
    course, since I have replied ... I am partially to blame. I guess I still
    have a lot more respect for the technology PROFESSION than many of the
    people that read/post in this group. Furthermore, seeing ANYone posting
    ANYthing to indicate difficulty finding qualified candidates for technical
    jobs (in America) is shockingly absurd. Again, you (Ghost) are seriously
    insulting many displaced IT workers!!! Moderator?!
     
    techshare, Sep 5, 2003
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  17. Ghost

    jonny bravo Guest

    Having previously looked for work in Ghosts general area I can state for a
    fact that what he says is true...(about a thousand dumasses will pound down
    your door
    for $15 an hour.... Florida has no unions.. so as such wages there
    tend to be on the low side until you show you know what the hell your
    doin,...

    Example... Advertisement inserter..(loud, backbreaking tedious screwed up
    hours work)
    Union State Ohio ( Cleveland Plain Dealer.. entry pay $22.50 hr)
    non Union Fla. (Tampa Tribune..entry pay $ 8.50 hr)
    I went back to Ohio.....

    I can see Ghosts point from another angle also... I hire helpers\ laborers
    for
    remodeling work... every out of work guy I talk to says he knows his shit...
    ("Sure I can read a tape measure, sure I know how to cut an angle")
    It doesn't take long to find out they are full of shit, and probably screwed
    something
    up that I have to go back and fix....the time and material come out of my
    pocket...
    they get pissed off when you fire them and they will also be the first guy
    in front of you
    on payday with his hand out...

    I believe it's better to be picky as hell then, just give anybody a shot...
    you might get lucky on the first round, but then again you could end up
    shootin
    yourself in the foot.....
     
    jonny bravo, Sep 5, 2003
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