VoIP service monthly charges?

Discussion in 'UK VOIP' started by r_mervart, Jul 16, 2005.

  1. r_mervart

    r_mervart Guest

    Looking on the Voipfone website, without registering, I found it difficult
    to be sure whether there is or is not any monthly fee - if you make no
    calls, or whether the service is in this respect free. Could someone briefly
    summarise for me which of these VoIP service providers do not charge any
    monthly fee?

    r_mervart, Jul 16, 2005
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  2. r_mervart

    7 Guest

    You are getting confused with old service providers who charge
    monthly fees.

    New providers like Voipfone, there are no monthly fees.

    Other more modern service providers have no accounts either
    and charge 10%-20% extra for standard analogue phone (non-VoIP) calls
    compared to VoIP calls.
    7, Jul 16, 2005
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  3. r_mervart

    r_mervart Guest

    What confuses me are statements that like these
    a.. >>I have been looking at signing up with Vonage on their £9.99/month deal. (uk.telecom.voip)

    b.. Single Line: Free Trial! £0.00 per month for 3 months
    £4.00 per month thereafter (Gradwell website)
    r_mervart, Jul 16, 2005
  4. You can sign up with voipfone for free (no monthly fee) they give you a
    few free minutes and sms to try things out then if your still happy you
    just top up your account with credit they do have a few services that
    are charged monthly but the basic service is pay as you go

    Mathew Curtis, Jul 16, 2005
  5. forgot to give you this link should tell you all you need to know

    Mathew Curtis, Jul 16, 2005
  6. r_mervart

    r_mervart Guest

    Thanks. Looking at the voipfone charges, For 0845, 0870, mobile calls and
    international calls it is possible to beat these prices using a combination
    of the BT or Cable plus calling cards It is then a question of how long the
    calls are and their volume to see if or what saving one can achieve mainly
    due to not paying for the monthly rental. For very high volumes/call
    durations you may be better of with the old analog line.
    r_mervart, Jul 16, 2005
  7. r_mervart

    Ivor Jones Guest

    Mathew Curtis wrote:

    I was looking at their site but I couldn't see where you can select a
    phone number or what format it is.

    Is it an ordinary geographic one as with Sipgate or is it one of those 05
    numbers that probably cost extra to call from the PSTN..?

    Ivor Jones, Jul 16, 2005
  8. r_mervart

    7 Guest

    Post the url.
    Probably services other than VoIP.
    For VoIP you just set account up and pay some money into the pot
    in advance so that you can make phone calls and the money gets
    taken out the pot.
    7, Jul 16, 2005
  9. r_mervart

    Ivor Jones Guest

    No. Gradwell is a business-oriented system, Peter Gradwell who runs it
    posts on this group from time to time. The url is www.gradwell.co.uk

    It is, from what I've seen, an excellent service, but the monthly charge
    is too much for my purposes.

    Ivor Jones, Jul 16, 2005
  10. r_mervart

    r_mervart Guest

    It is said there that calls to 05 number are the same as to
    any "ordinary tel. number". It does not mention whether you
    can also have a local geographic number, only 0870 number
    r_mervart, Jul 17, 2005
  11. r_mervart

    r_mervart Guest

    In my first example it was probably a reference to a specific package
    that already includes some free minutes, as you suggested. The second
    example seems true irreducible monthly fee, see
    r_mervart, Jul 17, 2005
  12. r_mervart

    r_mervart Guest

    To be fair monthly charge is still less than half of BT or NTL, so if it is
    a quality, reliable service to the level of analog BT or NTL line then
    it would be worth having, particularly for a small business
    r_mervart, Jul 17, 2005
  13. Just to clarify you get a 0560 number free when you sign up you can
    also add an free 0870 fax and voice number too with free fax to email

    Mathew Curtis, Jul 17, 2005
  14. r_mervart

    GwG Guest

    But a lot of people on NTL cannot dial 056 numbers, due to NTL refusing to
    enable them on some exchanges. This makes the use of 056 numbers very
    unreliable, and it also affects BT customers who have an 056 number, because
    they will not be reachable from a lot of NTL customers.
    GwG, Jul 17, 2005
  15. r_mervart

    Ivor Jones Guest

    r_mervart wrote:

    Indeed, which is the market I think they aim for, rather than the domestic

    Ivor Jones, Jul 17, 2005
  16. r_mervart

    cjd Guest

    Voipfone lets you choose the things you want from its package builder.
    If you click on the text you can see what they do and how much they

    You get an 056 number automatically for free. Calls to 056 from BT
    phones are at BT's national calls rates. You can have any number you
    like - 0870 is free - others like geographic numbers are charged at
    £1.99 per month. Items with an * are charged monthly.

    The basic service is pay as you go with no monthly charges.

    cjd, Jul 17, 2005
  17. Thus spaketh cjd:

    Like to clear that up?

    Are you saying the 056 is charged as an 0870 number, as BT no longer
    distinguish between national and local calls.
    {{{{{Welcome}}}}}, Jul 17, 2005
  18. r_mervart

    GwG Guest

    The last time I looked, BT charges were:-
    Calls to 056 numbers are charged at the g21 rate.
    Daytime 4.89p per minute
    Evening 2p per minute
    Weekend 1.18p per minute
    All the above include vat.

    NTL might have different charges, but that's hard to tell, as I can't even
    get them to enable the 056 numbers, let alone find a price for dialling
    them, but as some areas can apparently dial 056 numbers from NTL, there must
    be a price set somewhere.
    GwG, Jul 17, 2005
  19. r_mervart

    cjd Guest

    It is worth clearing this up.

    BT Price List July 2005 - Residential Customers
    all price include VAT & there is a minimum charge of 5p


    056 - Calls to New Voice Service Chargeband G21
    Daytime 4.89p/min
    Evening 2p/min
    Weekend 1.18p/min

    0870 (National) Call Charges
    Daytime 7.91p/min
    Evening 3.95 p/min
    Weekend 1.5p/min

    For completeness
    Local Call Charges
    Daytime 3.95p/min
    Evening 1p/min
    Weekend 1p/min

    cjd, Jul 17, 2005
  20. r_mervart

    r_mervart Guest

    Thanks for the clarification. However, if it is correct that NTL users
    cannot call 056 numbers that is quite a serious limitation to the use of
    these numbers.
    r_mervart, Jul 17, 2005
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