Traveling to Europe - Laptop vs External 80 GB Hard drive

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by zxcvbnm2bg, Mar 17, 2006.

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    Paul J Gans Guest

    Paul J Gans, Mar 20, 2006
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    Paul J Gans Guest

    Thanks for the information.
    Sure. That's why I never intended to take a laptop.

    ---- Paul J. Gans
    Paul J Gans, Mar 20, 2006
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  3. Paul,

    Ours has survived several trips as hand luggage, including my wife's trip
    to Antarctica. It's a standard 2.5-inch "portable" disk drive, and drive
    isn't normally running while travelling. I vae even read about people
    changing the hard drive themselves.

    David J Taylor, Mar 20, 2006
  4. Paul J Gans wrote:
    ... as was my wife's trip to Antarctica! She took:

    - two cameras based on different memory card and battery technology

    - two of each battery charger types, plus mains leads

    - enough memory cards for the whole trip

    - the Epson P-2000 (as a backup, and a shared display device)

    Of course, because she had all that redundancy, nothing failed. Indeed,
    she was able to lend someone a mains lead for a charger.

    David J Taylor, Mar 20, 2006
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    mrsgator88 Guest

    I'm coming late to this thread, but, there's probably a number of internet
    cafe's nearby in those places. Maybe visit one once a week to upload your
    photos to a web photo service.

    mrsgator88, Mar 20, 2006
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    Bill Hilton Guest

    Paul J Gans writes ...
    All of us are in pretty much the same situation ... most people I know
    bring at least two backups on long trips where you're shooting
    "irreplaceable photoso" so you have some redundancy. Bringing just one
    storage device is a bit of a risk no matter how reliable it might be
    since all of them will fail (or be stolen or be dunked) at some point.
    My wife keeps one disk and I keep a second so we have them in separate
    Bill Hilton, Mar 20, 2006
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    Paul Rubin Guest

    Besides hard drive failures, you also have to worry about losing the

    I think your best bet is to get a portable CD or DVD burner instead of
    a hard drive gizmo. Then, every few days, burn cd's or dvd's of your
    pictures and mail a disc home. In the worst case scenario where you
    lose all your luggage and equipment, your pictures are still waiting
    for you when you get back.
    Paul Rubin, Mar 20, 2006
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    Arthur Small Guest

    I use a PD70X and a Digital Album as a back up. Been to Eastern & Western
    Europe, Russia & China. Images on both always have been safe.
    Arthur Small, Mar 20, 2006
  9. Redundancy should be your watchword, then.

    Take enough flash cards to hold all of the pictures you expect to take.
    If you're thinking a thousand or so shots, take 3 or 4 1 gig cards,
    which should give plenty of room.

    Take a hard-drive based storage object. An iPod, a laptop, one of those
    Epson storage thingies, whatever. Download from the card to the drive
    whenever you have a chance (every night, perhaps), but don't delete the
    files on the card.

    Stop in an internet cafe or a copy shop and copy pictures from the drive
    to CD-Rs. Do this every 500 or so megabytes. Mail the CDs back to your

    That way, there are three copies of every photo, which means that any
    single disaster doesn't means the loss of a picture.

    Daniel Silevitch, Mar 20, 2006
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    mrsgator88 Guest

    Sorry, that just makes me laugh. Paranoia of the new millenium. I've been
    to Europe and the Middle East four times with film cameras, never had a
    problem. The film even made it through the X-Ray machines unaffected. Now
    with virtually infallable cards, so small you can keep them in your pocket
    at all times, we need triple backups.

    mrsgator88, Mar 20, 2006
  11. Well, he essentially said he was paranoid. At least I didn't recommend
    taking multiple cameras.

    I think theft is a more likely failure mode then something actually
    breaking. X-Rays aren't very high up on the threat list.

    Daniel Silevitch, Mar 20, 2006
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    Paul J Gans Guest

    Thanks. I've read up on it. Now all I have to do is to
    decide if $500 would be better spent on this or on gigabytes
    of CF cards...

    ---- Paul J. Gans
    Paul J Gans, Mar 21, 2006
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    Paul J Gans Guest

    I'll bet she loved the trip!

    She's one up on me. I'm going for the Canon 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS.
    Lugging it and everything else will be a bit of a problem but I'll
    certainly have a suitable backpack.

    Funds for the rest of the kit are a bit lacking, hence the
    pondering... But I've got a second camera as well, also
    different memory cards and battery technology.

    ----- Paul J. Gans
    Paul J Gans, Mar 21, 2006
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    Paul J Gans Guest

    Yeah. I'd love to do that. As I've said in a very recent post,
    cash will be limited after basics are paid for.

    ----- Paul J. Gans
    Paul J Gans, Mar 21, 2006
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    Paul J Gans Guest

    Hmm. Where I'm going there are no mailboxes.... :-(

    ---- Paul J. Gans
    Paul J Gans, Mar 21, 2006
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    Paul J Gans Guest

    Right. But there are no internet cafes or mailboxes where I'm
    going, but I'd love to do the first two. We'll see how it works
    out. I have a couple of months yet before I go.

    ----- Paul J. Gans
    Paul J Gans, Mar 21, 2006
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    Paul Rubin Guest

    Then stash multiple CD's around different places in your belongings,
    leave them with people you know, or whatever.
    Paul Rubin, Mar 21, 2006
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    Paul J Gans Guest

    I'll have a secondary camera. Already have it, so why not.
    When I travel with photo equipment, it never leaves my hand.

    But I'm used to travelling with Que Sera Sera...

    ---- Paul J. Gans
    Paul J Gans, Mar 21, 2006
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    Colin Brace Guest

    Digital media isn't inherently more unstable than the old, but
    accidents happen; in particularly, you can be ripped off. A friend
    travelling in Argentina had his backpack stolen, losing both his
    digital camera *and* his laptop with photos. Of course, he would have
    been in the same boat had he been carrying 35mm film...
    Colin Brace, Mar 21, 2006
  20. Indeed, Paul, it was a great, if not cheap, experience. She took her
    Nikon 990 (quite old now, 3.2MP), and a 5MP Panasonic FZ20 (with 36-432mm
    equivalent f/2.8 IS Leica lens). Weight was important, and the cost,
    clumsiness and bulk of a DSLR would have ruled it out for her (and for
    me). She commented that there were indeed people with DSLRs and big
    lenses, but once you land the wildlife comes to you so very long zooms are
    not always required. The FZ20 is now about $400, I believe. Having these
    smaller cameras makes life easier, and you are not such an obvious target
    for muggings etc. (Mugging is not usually a problem, but heed local
    advice about which areas of some cities to avoid).

    Edit on the hoof, if you can. Can you borrow extra memory cards from

    David J Taylor, Mar 21, 2006
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