TOT: Snooper's Charter

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    Bob Minchin Guest

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    Bod Guest

    Bod, Oct 9, 2015
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    Chris Whelan Guest


    Chris Whelan, Oct 9, 2015
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    Graeme Wall Guest

    Amuses me that people get all upset about what the guvmint may or may
    not be doing but are quite happy for Facebook, Google et al to do much
    the same thing and more.
    Graeme Wall, Oct 9, 2015
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    Tim Watts Guest

    I'm not, because they'll lose your data to some other people who'll find
    a use for it, innocent or not.
    Tim Watts, Oct 9, 2015
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    chris Guest

    Except there is no evidence *whatsoever* that it does. The
    government/GCHQ hide behind 'secrecy' to avoid having to show that it works.

    There's plenty of evidence (e.g. PRISM) to show that government
    organisations are already working illegally and need much more oversight
    before any more powers are given to them.
    chris, Oct 9, 2015
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    chris Guest

    Except you've made a choice re Google, Facebook, et al - whether you
    understand it fully or not is another matter. Whereas with the
    government you have no choice, once it is in law.
    chris, Oct 9, 2015
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    Brian-Gaff Guest

    Yes but look at what happens with self funding litter police and parking
    police. If this lot get paid on results, mere innocence will not be a
    barrier to prosecution.
    Brian-Gaff, Oct 9, 2015
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    Brian-Gaff Guest

    I will say this, this is the most accessible sign the whatever site I've
    come across. Most of the others are slow and navigate strangely with a
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    James H Guest

    You'll have something you won't want others to know I assure you.
    James H, Oct 9, 2015
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    Bod Guest

    Like where he hid the bodies.
    Bod, Oct 9, 2015
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    Bill Guest

    I had a thread on uk.d-i-y about an accusation that a friend had
    illegally downloaded a film. The letters are still flowing.

    The company alleging the copyright infringement are stating quite
    clearly that they believe that it is the person paying the isp who is
    responsible for all the data passing through the IP address in use at
    the time of the alleged infringement. They say that that person is
    responsible for securing access via their (I assume) router and thus is
    responsible for any copyright or other violations, and this will be
    their position in court. Windows 10's wifi sharing feature thus becomes
    quite interesting.

    I can see both sides of the snooping issue. If the data is held, it
    needs to be available to the user as well as the government, Microsoft
    or whoever. That would presumably enable the friend to prove the
    relevant data actually passed and that, as we suspect might be the case
    if it did, someone renting a nearby house had been piggy backing on
    their internet access.

    I certainly don't think any of this is as simple as "I never do anything
    wrong, so I don't care who uses my data".
    Bill, Oct 9, 2015
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    Jonno Guest

    Bob Minchin scribbled

    Jonno, Oct 9, 2015
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    Hanny Z Guest

    I am because I have always used a card when paying for
    things instead of using cash when I can and have never
    had anyone do anything with that data that I care about.
    Hanny Z, Oct 9, 2015
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    Rod Speed Guest

    There is actually. Quite a bit of terrorist activity has been thwarted
    before it has happened and its been possible to work out who is
    heading off to Syria to get involved there too.

    And its how those crims that drilled the fucking great
    hole in the safety deposit box safe were caught too.
    It clearly has worked when they identify terrorist
    activity before its happened and stopped it.
    And this change is to make that legal.
    Even sillier than you usually manage.
    Rod Speed, Oct 10, 2015
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    Rod Speed Guest

    You have just as much choice about using what they
    are snooping on and not using the phone system if
    you don’t like them snooping, and never going
    anywhere in a car because they are recording
    where the car number plates are seen, and you
    can always wear a bag over your head with holes
    cut in it to see out of so they can't use facial
    recognition and wear a burka so they can't
    even use body recognition software either.
    Rod Speed, Oct 10, 2015
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    Tim Watts Guest

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    Rod Speed Guest

    You can assure me of anything you like, I don’t.
    Rod Speed, Oct 10, 2015
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