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Is there somewhere to sign up to approve this process? I have nothing to hide and am happy for as much "snooping" as possible if it helps catch crims and terrorists.
Amuses me that people get all upset about what the guvmint may or may not be doing but are quite happy for Facebook, Google et al to do much the same thing and more.
I'm not, because they'll lose your data to some other people who'll find a use for it, innocent or not.
Except there is no evidence *whatsoever* that it does. The government/GCHQ hide behind 'secrecy' to avoid having to show that it works. There's plenty of evidence (e.g. PRISM) to show that government organisations are already working illegally and need much more oversight before any more powers are given to them.
Except you've made a choice re Google, Facebook, et al - whether you understand it fully or not is another matter. Whereas with the government you have no choice, once it is in law.
Yes but look at what happens with self funding litter police and parking police. If this lot get paid on results, mere innocence will not be a barrier to prosecution. Brian
I will say this, this is the most accessible sign the whatever site I've come across. Most of the others are slow and navigate strangely with a keyboard. Brian
What does the snooping involve? I don't want to have to pay for my ISP to store email or any other usage data. There are also various practical problems.
I had a thread on uk.d-i-y about an accusation that a friend had illegally downloaded a film. The letters are still flowing. The company alleging the copyright infringement are stating quite clearly that they believe that it is the person paying the isp who is responsible for all the data passing through the IP address in use at the time of the alleged infringement. They say that that person is responsible for securing access via their (I assume) router and thus is responsible for any copyright or other violations, and this will be their position in court. Windows 10's wifi sharing feature thus becomes quite interesting. I can see both sides of the snooping issue. If the data is held, it surely needs to be available to the user as well as the government, Microsoft or whoever. That would presumably enable the friend to prove the relevant data actually passed and that, as we suspect might be the case if it did, someone renting a nearby house had been piggy backing on their internet access. I certainly don't think any of this is as simple as "I never do anything wrong, so I don't care who uses my data".
I am because I have always used a card when paying for things instead of using cash when I can and have never had anyone do anything with that data that I care about.
There is actually. Quite a bit of terrorist activity has been thwarted before it has happened and its been possible to work out who is heading off to Syria to get involved there too. And its how those crims that drilled the fucking great hole in the safety deposit box safe were caught too. It clearly has worked when they identify terrorist activity before its happened and stopped it. And this change is to make that legal. Even sillier than you usually manage.
You have just as much choice about using what they are snooping on and not using the phone system if you don’t like them snooping, and never going anywhere in a car because they are recording where the car number plates are seen, and you can always wear a bag over your head with holes cut in it to see out of so they can't use facial recognition and wear a burka so they can't even use body recognition software either.
