'Then and Now' - The Hollywood Freeway - Fifty Years - 1956/2006

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by Gary Edstrom, Dec 2, 2006.

  1. Gary Edstrom

    Gary Edstrom Guest

    Today is one of those rare, ultra-clear days in the Los Angeles area. I
    decided to go out and try to duplicate a few old pictures from my
    father's slide collection. Here is my first attempt:


    This is looking northwest on the Hollywood Freeway from the Vermont
    Avenue overpass. This is just northwest of downtown Los Angeles. The
    upper picture was taken fifty years ago in 1956 by my father. The lower
    picture was taken today by me.

    It was a little difficult to register the two pictures because there are
    so few objects that exist in both pictures to use as reference points.
    This area has seen a lot of change.

    Gary Edstrom
    Gary Edstrom, Dec 2, 2006
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    Matt Ion Guest

    Yeah, the newer one's got a lot of crappy repairs done to the road surface...
    pretty poor maintenance over the years, I'd say! Probably why there's less
    traffic in the newer one too :)
    Matt Ion, Dec 3, 2006
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    Frank ess Guest

    Very nice; somewhat different lenses might have made the differences

    I really enjoy this kind of thing. Part of one of my obsessions
    (Riverside International Raceway history) is doing Then and Nows of
    the old racing ground in Moreno Valley.

    Have you seen the Los Angeles Then and Now and Hollywood T&N books?
    Relatively inexpensive, and fodder for many a pleasant reverie to
    those who are familiar with the areas. Seems to me there are several
    other cities subjected to the T&N series, also.

    Fun stuff. Not all photography has to be artful or technophiliac.
    Frank ess, Dec 3, 2006
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    Gary Edstrom Guest

    I probably could have done better if I had taken a tripod along. I was
    just hand-holding the camera and going back and forth between a 4x6
    print in my and hand looking through the viewfinder. I zoomed out a
    little bit to insure that I had everything that was in the old picture.
    I then cropped it to what looked like as good a match as I could come up
    with. I hadn't noticed that grating in the picture that would have
    provided a good registration point.

    Gary Edstrom, Dec 3, 2006
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    Annika1980 Guest

    Great job. I love looking at shots like this.
    Keep em coming!
    Annika1980, Dec 3, 2006
  6. You did a nice job, tho. Is it possible that your Dad's lens was a tad
    longer than the one you used? What elevation?
    John McWilliams, Dec 3, 2006
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    Gary Edstrom Guest

    My dad had an old Argus C-3. One thing I have noticed in almost all of
    the pictures from his camera is the vignetting at the corners. I can
    see that I missed a good registraion point in the picture: The grating
    on the righ-hand side of the picture. It appears in both the old and
    new. If I had seen that and had used a tripod, it probably would have
    matched them better.

    Gary Edstrom, Dec 3, 2006
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    Mike Russell Guest

    Mike Russell, Dec 3, 2006
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    iws Guest

    Interesting that the comparison doesn't seem to work in Firefox - works in
    IE. I found a similar Then and Now book on Pompei back in 2000 on a trip to
    Italy. When doing a video, my partner took images of the T&N pages then
    faded the old into the new for a really great effect for the video of that
    part of the trip.
    iws, Dec 3, 2006
  10. The area has changed a lot, but amazingly, the freeway has not changed at

    Merritt Mullen, Dec 3, 2006
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    W Paul Mills Guest

    Hash: SHA1
    Works for me in Firefox 2.

    Nice comparison!
    Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32)
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    W Paul Mills, Dec 3, 2006
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    Matt Ion Guest

    C-3! That was a great old camera. I have a circa-1956-model "brick" sitting in
    the closet... keep meaning to pull it out and shoot some B&W with it. Argus was
    renowned in their day for their quality optics - it's a 50mm f/3.5 lens that
    works beautifully... as long as the rangefinder is aligned properly to allow you
    to focus! :)
    Matt Ion, Dec 3, 2006
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    Ron Hunter Guest

    Something interesting is that the shape of of the hills in the distance
    has changed, and the area to the right where the onramp joins the
    freeway seems to have been lowered.
    Ron Hunter, Dec 3, 2006
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    Ron Hunter Guest

    The c-3 was the camera I learned the basics of photography with. I
    rather suspect my brother still has it.
    Ron Hunter, Dec 3, 2006
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    Mike Russell Guest

    Yes - one of the hills seems to have been carved away. I duplicated the
    point of view of the photograph on Google Earth. I'll make a wild guess
    that a housing development cleared away the trees and/or lowered that part
    of the mountain - at least there seems to be a flat spot with homes on it in
    the general area of the missing peak.

    Here's the view.
    If you have Google Earth, you'll see an oblique view with the drain in the
    lower left, and similar mountains in the distance. Otherwise, Google Maps
    will give an overhead view.
    Mike Russell, Dec 3, 2006
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    Ronald Hands Guest

    It may have been an "ultra-clear day" for your 2006 photo, but
    there's still a perceptible tinge of brown smog along the horizon.
    Which makes the clear blue of the sky in the 1956 shot even more striking.

    -- Ron
    Ronald Hands, Dec 3, 2006
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    J. Clarke Guest

    Durable little thing too. My Dad's Argus still works. That's _after_
    landing on half the islands in the Pacific during WWII and with not a
    lick of maintenance since. I should probably have it cleaned and lubed.
    Funny how much more I respect that camera now than I did when I was a kid.
    J. Clarke, Dec 3, 2006
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    Gary Edstrom Guest

    I wish I still had it as a collector's item. Before my father passed
    away, he went through this phase where he started to sell or throw away
    some of his old things and throw away some of his old pictures. It
    never occurred to him that we might want to keep them. He couldn't seem
    to understand WHY we wanted to keep them.

    Gary Edstrom, Dec 3, 2006
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    iws Guest

    Time for me to upgrade I guess.
    iws, Dec 3, 2006
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    Ron Hunter Guest

    Thanks for that. There are so many houses on those hills now that the
    sheer weight of them probably brought down some of the hills... Bet
    there weren't any there in 1956...
    Ron Hunter, Dec 3, 2006
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