Test answers

Discussion in 'MCSE' started by Joe P., Mar 27, 2006.

  1. Joe P.

    Joe P. Guest

    I attended training for my MCSE and other certs at a place called Current
    Technologies in Portage, IN. The owner, Alan Gardner routinely copies test
    king or Troy Techs and passes them out as "test prep tools". Hey, these
    are the answers to the exam, how common is this really at a training center
    that is supposedly certified my MS?
    Joe P., Mar 27, 2006
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  2. Joe P.

    Consultant Guest

    not common.
    turn him in, what a scumbag
    Consultant, Mar 27, 2006
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  3. Joe P.

    Briscobar Guest

    You might want to send this guy's name, and any other pertinent info, off to
    microsoft. Try . And, just to make the point clear,
    . Chances are they wont' do anything, but the penalty
    for this is supposedly pulling all his certs. Do the right thing. Rid the
    industry of cheaters.
    Briscobar, Mar 27, 2006
  4. Joe P.

    FrisbeeĀ® Guest

    Joe, assuming you're not trolling, and assuming you're not a disgruntled
    student, I've gone ahead and forwarded this to I don't
    know how common this is, but I, for one, appreciate you're bringing this to
    our attention. Let's hope that Microsoft appreciates it, too.
    FrisbeeĀ®, Mar 27, 2006
  5. Joe P.

    Guest Guest

    I'd love to see Testking sue him for copyright infringement
    Guest, Mar 27, 2006
  6. Joe P.

    Briscobar Guest

    Does it get any more ironic than that?
    Briscobar, Mar 27, 2006
  7. Joe P.

    Kline Sphere Guest

    I'd love to see Testking sue him for copyright infringement
    A little like hitler suing the state of israel on grounds of racial

    Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
    Kline Sphere, Mar 27, 2006
  8. Joe P.

    Kline Sphere Guest


    Dave Null's still off sick.

    Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
    Kline Sphere, Mar 27, 2006
  9. Joe P.

    Kline Sphere Guest

    Joe, assuming you're not trolling, and assuming you're not a disgruntled
    who can tell these days.....

    yabba dabba dooooooo

    Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
    Kline Sphere, Mar 27, 2006
  10. The question here is one of math and morality.

    Cheating on these exams is probably as common as cheating on spouses,
    cheating on taxes, and running stop signs when you're in a hurry to get to
    work. I suspect it's a common enough 'problem', certainly common enough that
    people here are aware of it and frequently comment on how wrong it is. I
    also suspect that the ratio of 'good to bad' in the testing issue is likely
    the same ratio of 'good to bad' in marriages, puppies, and unborn fetuses.

    In this instance, the owner may be:

    A. Evil - purposely encouraging people to cheat because there's some bonus
    that he gets if more people pass at his training facility.
    B. Stupid - legitimately believes that these copies of documents are helpful
    and is trying to help people who need work to obtain their certifications.
    C. Agnostic - Just doesn't give a carp and does this because it's something
    to do, or something Alan is genetically predispositioned to do based .
    D. Neither A or B. You can figure out on your own how a person can not be
    evil and not be stupid.
    E. Both A and B. Legitimately believes the copies of the answers are
    helpful, and is pleased that by helping people, he gets his bonus.
    F. C, again, just because I don't think a person can be a combination of
    evil, stupid, and/or agnostic.

    Of course, there's also the alternative, which is to consider the
    possibility that 'Joe P.' is evil or stupid, and I believe 'that one guy
    called Frisbee' touched on this, that 'Joe P.' might have failed tests or
    not received his 'money's worth', and so 'Joe P' is attempting to point a
    finger at Alan for something that possibly isn't being done. The evidence
    here comes from 'Hey, here's a guy's first and last name, and I charge him
    publicly with wrongdoing, but offer no information about myself, or proof

    Overall, both of these practices, cheating and finking, devalue the MCSE and
    other related Microsoft certifications, so, whee, I'm too tired to type
    anymore, you figure out what it means when I say it devalues the MCSE and
    other related Microsoft certifications.

    Moderator [MVP] [Meaty Variable Parser] [, Mar 27, 2006
  11. Joe P.

    LoopBack Guest


    LoopBack, Mar 27, 2006
  12. Joe P.

    LoopBack Guest

    I recon he is a old hand as$fcuker; who has somehow cheated himself into an
    MCT and is so stupid, that he's now teaching others the error of his ways.

    Unwittingly he has become a 'father of as$fcukers'
    LoopBack, Mar 27, 2006
  13. Joe P.

    Mike T. Guest

    Would that be considered a Godwin?

    Mike T.
    If I tell a human that his 4-corner head (nose, 2 ears and back corner) has
    only a 1-corner face, the dumb-a** will say to me - "prove it".
    He knows not that his face is a corner.
    --Dr. Gene Ray, Wisest Human
    Mike T., Mar 27, 2006
  14. Joe P.

    JaR Guest

    Yeah, I'd say there was an excellent chance of that.
    JaR, Mar 27, 2006
  15. Not true. MS will pull the CPLS status certs and do a few other things.
    Thats part of the reason Trancander is "in the right" now.


    It is the mark of an educated man to be able to entertain a thought without
    accepting it.
    The Rev [MCT], Mar 27, 2006
  16. Joe P.

    JaR Guest

    I'm sorry, it's just not in me to really give a fsck this week. Next week
    doesn't look too good, either.

    There's a chance I might be up to giving a flying fsck the week after,
    but I wouldn't count on it.
    JaR, Mar 27, 2006
  17. Joe P.

    CBIC Guest

    I'm sorry, it's just not in me to really give a fsck this week. Next
    Sounds like somebody has a case of the mondays.
    CBIC, Mar 27, 2006
  18. Joe P.

    Briscobar Guest

    If it weren't Monday, I'd rip you a new one for being so apathetic towards
    braindumps. As it is, I'm assuming you're having a case of the Mondays. As
    am I, hence why I don't care enough to be mean to you right now.
    Briscobar, Mar 27, 2006
  19. Joe P.

    JaR Guest


    Cite recent example?
    JaR, Mar 27, 2006
  20. Joe P.

    JaR Guest

    You have NO idea.
    JaR, Mar 27, 2006
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