stability issues

Discussion in 'Computer Information' started by Kamil, Dec 1, 2003.

  1. Kamil

    Kamil Guest

    I just got this computer its brand new and it stinks!! it wont do anything,
    every little task it does it locks up or freezes.... i get blue screens of
    death just as windows is about to load (win 98se) after leaving the
    computer alone doing nothing it freezes... a lot of times just when i go to
    the task bar, before it even pops up or anything explorer crashes... it wont
    run many programs.. it crashes.. the only thing i think it may be is because
    the processor is an athlon XP 2700 and the memory is 2400, but the processor
    is slowed down to the 2400 speed.. so both run at 2400... would it help if i
    got a 2700 memory module and got the cpu to full speed?

    thanks in advance
     
    Kamil, Dec 1, 2003
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  2. Kamil

    Pepperoni Guest

    Try going to windows update and get all the critical updates.
    http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp
    Update IE to 6.0+, grab the recommended updates and then update and run a
    good anti virus program. 98SE is stable and smooth running, but it needs
    to be updated fully to run correctly. As loaded (preloaded) from the disc,
    it will barely connect and run online without locking up.
    I see you are on cable, so the process should be fairly quick and painless.
    Trying to snatch all the updates on dial-up could take days.

    Remember to reboot when Windows Update calls for it, and then return for
    further updates.

    It is also possible that you have too many applications set to start as
    windows loads, you have insufficient RAM, hardware conflicts (most likely
    video drivers), or a virus. Update W98 fully and I think most of your
    problem will disappear.

    Pepperoni
     
    Pepperoni, Dec 1, 2003
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  3. Kamil

    DeMoN LaG Guest

    There is no such thing as PC2400 RAM. The grades are PC1600, PC2100,
    PC2700, and PC3200. Your problem could definitely be caused by having the
    memory running at 333 mhz ddr when it can not handle it.

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    DeMoN LaG, Dec 1, 2003
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  4. Kamil

    Kamil Guest

    my windows 98 has been fully updated since i first installed it. i dont
    think i have a virus as this is a brand new computer and i have installed
    nortin corporate before even connecting to the internet. I am kind of having
    a lot of programs start up at boot up but i have 512MB ram and even after
    startup i have over 360mb free.. i did take some of the programs out of
    startup using msconfig but i havent noticed any improvements.... any further
    ideas?

    thanks
     
    Kamil, Dec 1, 2003
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  5. Kamil

    Kamil Guest


    oops what i meant was 2100.. i was a little confused there, sorry
     
    Kamil, Dec 1, 2003
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  6. Kamil

    Oldus Fartus Guest

    What on earth are you talking about?
     
    Oldus Fartus, Dec 1, 2003
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  7. Kamil

    Oldus Fartus Guest

    Your CPU should actually be running at 2.16 GHz and running it at 2400
    would very likely cause the symptoms you are experiencing.

    http://geek.dealtime.com/xPF-AMD_Athlon_XP_2700_2_16_GHz_AXDA2700BOX
     
    Oldus Fartus, Dec 1, 2003
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  8. Kamil

    Kamil Guest

    Kamil, Dec 1, 2003
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  9. Kamil

    Oldus Fartus Guest

    No. The actual clock speed is 2.16 AMD use a performance rating of
    2700 but that does not reflect the actual speed.

    If the *actual speed* your processor is running is 2400, then you have
    it overclocked, which would explain the instability.
     
    Oldus Fartus, Dec 1, 2003
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  10. Kamil

    Kamil Guest

    No. The actual clock speed is 2.16 AMD use a performance rating of
    well i dont know how to explain it... this processor is a 2700 but its
    running at 2400 right now because the ram is slower i dont know the exact
    frequency of the CPU and i want it to run at its top speed (no overclocking)
    without my windows crashing all the time.
     
    Kamil, Dec 1, 2003
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  11. Kamil

    Pepperoni Guest

    Not many more ideas. Are you using a lot of shared memory for video? It
    seems you have a lot of Ram tied up just to start the machine. Do you have
    new sata drives or something unusual that W98 has trouble recognizing? I
    guess I'm merely curious as to why a "new" machine would be loaded with W98.
    Sometimes W98 has issues when hardware is loaded with W2000 drivers

    I might suggest turning the display properties back to 256 colors and see
    if the boot process improves. If you see an improvement, dial up to 16 bit
    color.

    The experts will be checking in over the next few hours, it may help if you
    give us the make/model of your machine. Someone familiar with the machine
    may have experience with the problem.

    Pepperoni
     
    Pepperoni, Dec 1, 2003
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  12. Kamil

    Pepperoni Guest

    Gee, I forgot. Did you have some sort of objection, or constructive input
    on the problem?

    Pepperoni
     
    Pepperoni, Dec 1, 2003
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  13. Kamil

    Kamil Guest

    ok lets address the issues here one at a time:

    1) there is no shared memory for video I have a 64MB NVidia geforce4
    2) this machine had 98 on it because i put it on there, i dont have XP
    around if i did i'd get that
    3) turning my colors dows wont help anything the memory used to display
    images is very small especially since i have 512MB
    4) this is a custom built computer : the motherboard is a MSI KT4V series,
    KT400 chipset based
     
    Kamil, Dec 1, 2003
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  14. Kamil

    Oldus Fartus Guest

    Where are you getting that speed from? Is the BIOS reporting the CPU
    as an Athlon XP 2400 or just as a CPU running at 2400MHz?

    The 2700+ (or 2400+) is a model number, and is not the real speed.

    If you are able to get into the BIOS have a look at the CPU speed
    settings and let us know what they say.
     
    Oldus Fartus, Dec 1, 2003
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  15. Kamil

    Wizard Guest

    I would check for proper cooling of the CPU and then look at the BIOS
    memory timings.
     
    Wizard, Dec 1, 2003
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  16. Kamil

    Thor Guest

    Well, if the Athlon XP2700+ runs on a 166Mhz clock speed, which is
    double-pumped to 333Mhz, he should be using 333Mhz memory (PC-2700) anyway.
    But I also agree that he should make sure he isn't overclocking the CPU as
    well.
     
    Thor, Dec 1, 2003
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  17. Kamil

    Oldus Fartus Guest

    I would normally agree Thor, but the motherboard manual in this case
    would seem to suggest that the slower ram can be used.

    I could be misunderstanding what Kamil posted, but I still think he is
    confusing the XP rating with actual clock speed, the CPU is overclocked,
    and this is what is causing the instability. Hopefully he will post
    back with the BIOS settings, even if that does prove I am on the wrong
    track.
     
    Oldus Fartus, Dec 1, 2003
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  18. Kamil

    Trent© Guest

    Take it back.


    Have a nice week...

    Trent

    Dyslexics of the world ... UNTIE !
     
    Trent©, Dec 1, 2003
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  19. Kamil

    Trent© Guest

    There's yer problem!


    Have a nice week...

    Trent

    Dyslexics of the world ... UNTIE !
     
    Trent©, Dec 1, 2003
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  20. Kamil

    Kamil Guest

    the bios reports the CPU as 2400 on POST I know its a 2700. In the bios the
    FSB of the CPU is set to 100Mhz. There i can change the FSB and CPU ratio,
    if I set FSB to anything past 106 it wont start.. I tried it many times
    having to remove the battery to clear the BIOS. I'm not talking about actual
    speeds here I don't even know what they are but I would like to, just don't
    know how. uhm... ok I know this CPU is supposed to run at 333Mhz given of
    course I had the right ram, but my ram is slower than that and I don't know
    what its speed is exactly I'm guessing its 100Mhz since the CPU wont go any
    faster than that.. but that makes no sense 'cause PC100 are almost obsolete
    and i'm just lost at this point so someone save me please
     
    Kamil, Dec 1, 2003
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