spyware Doctor and spybot search and destroy

Can i have the 2 of them on my pc =Spyware Doctor and Spybot search and
destroy/ thank for any help/ right now i am useing Spyware Doctor=

 

huck asked in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:

May a handful of homophobic democrats perform unnatural acts in your beer.


--

Your mother was a loathsome punk who made babies on a small island in the
Outer Hebrides.

- John Holmes -

 

You can have as many as you like. Keep them up to date and run them
frequently depending on your surfing habits, or you can in stall
FireFox and make it your default browser learn how to use it and you
don't need any of them. Good Luck in what ever you decide.

 

Neither one is worth running. Sure Spybot ruled a year ago - today it
is a waste of diskspace. Sure it's freeware - but in this case you
get what you pay for.
The only two programs I would recommend using is SpySweeper from
webroot.com and CounterSpy from sunbelt software. Both have free
trials. Run them against your current programs and you'll see they
detect far more than your current apps. The proof is in the pudding
as my Mum always said.

Another poster recommended Firefox as a safer alternative when
browsing - that is both true and false. Firefox has security
vulnerablities as well - 8 found just last week. Sadly no patch for
Firefox - you have to download the whole new build and install to
"patch" - a huge waste of bandwidth.

If your really looking for a better browser - try Maxthon - it uses
the IE engine but has more security built in - you still need to
patch it occasionally as well - as with any software.

I have all three browsers on both my home and work pc's - and I
prefer Maxthon over the other two. All I am really trying to say is
don't think just because you have Firefox and use it - and don't ever
update it - that you are safe. Be careful in what kind of sites you
visit and run regular virus and spyware scans.

 

Not so, George. Firefox isn't perfect, and there are many other ways to
end up with spyware and adware on your system than just via your browser.

Regards,
Ian.

 

Sultan wrote:

<snip>

Entire download, 4.7MB. Now, how big are security patches from MS?
For more reading: http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=6488

 

There is no reason not to have both installed, but try to stay
away from having multiple *resident* scanners, such as BHOs,
which SpyBot S&D has -- I'm not sure about Spyware Doctor.

 

Not 4.7 MB for any IE patch. For more reading:
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=
160900911

 

Hey Roger - thanks cause one of the feedback posters makes even
better points:
#8 Re: Let's not be idiots
by niner

Saturday April 23rd, 2005 10:23 AM

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It's exactly this attitude that is the problem with Firefox' security
and the problem with it's marketing.

For those of you that know nothing except for the pretty marketing
speech: even Mozilla had security bugs that were known for _years_
and were not fixed. There's no magic here. Firefox is not more secure
"by nature". Security bugs get only fixed if there's some developer
interested in the problem and knows how to fix it. Security problems
don't get fixed by just saying that Firefox is secure or all by
themselves.

Mozilla.org (now the Mozilla foundation) had their bad times, too.
Security was not and is not always the absolute top priority in
development. Thankfully, the situation got better, but it has never
been perfect and it may change anytime. If you really want a secure
browser and want, that it stays so, you'll have to become one of
those white hats you talk about and get the bugs fixed by yourself.
And oh, of course you'll have to build your own Firefox with these
security patches applied. Because as we've seen with Firefox 1.03,
Mozilla Foundation can not put out the releases as quickly because of
compatibility concerns, handling of the distribution system, etc.
which increases your vulnerable time.

 

<snip>

Yep, good points. and Dizzle wrote:

--- begin quote ---
How many of you were effected by the security holes? How many got a
virus? spyware? lost sensitive data? had to reinstall?

Let's use our intelligence to combat these false claims, of course their
will always be bugs in software, therefore some of those bugs will be
security related. With IE you find out after their is an exploit, with
Firefox, white hats review the code and release a security report about
a piece of the code that has a bug, before hackers bother to exploit it
mozilla has a fix in place. Hacker's probably don't bother spending time
writing a difficult exploit because Mozilla has set the expectation that
the bugfix will be out in a week, max two.

If you don't honestly feel Firefox is safe, be my guest browse strange
sites with IE
--- end quote ---

I'm not exactly adamantly for Firefox and I don't feel strongly enough
to pound this argument into the ground. I was mostly responding to your
position that a 4.7 meg download was a "huge waste of bandwidth". Shit,
after installing SP2 on a couple of machines, I immediately started
leaving CDs with it all over the shop and a few at the house in case I
bring a customer's laptop home to work on.

 

Sure

 

:

Point taken - I just wish Firefox would incorporate smaller patches
instead - and have it handled through the browser - have you tried
Maxthon yet? They let you know when a patch is released and it is
updated right from your browser - no going out and downloading
manually and running an install- not explaining it the best I know -
just think they found a great way to keep their users patched.

 

[...]

If that's a fact, she fixed a perfectly good proverb (if it ain't broke,
don't fix it!), or perhaps you didn't listen carefully when your mother
spoke...

The proper one would be: 'The proof of the pudding (as in "anti spyware
tool pudding") is in the eating (which here would be "using the
tool").', but that's not applicable here (see below).

I use Spybot S&D and AdAware as my regular protection, and I have never
been bothered by hijacks or intrusive advertising. When testing other
software (like the ones recommended by the Sultan), I never get any
worse than a few tracking cookies, which I regard a minor threat. With
other software my computer might be cleaner, but I don't need that. I'm
"safe enough", which should be the objective for everyone.

The many users of Spybot S&D and AdAware comes from the fact that they
are free for use for an unlimited time and with small limitations on
functionality (none on Spybot S&D), and they do the job reasonably well.
They are not the "best" tools in every respect. So the "eating" is not
"proof of the pudding" here.

The "proof is in the pudding" statement fails even worse, though. Many
tools will present you with a high number of detections, but in many
cases they are what's known as "false positives", designed to lure you
into thinking these tools are better than the last one you used. Note
however that the recommended tools do not fall in this category as far
as I can see. SpySweeper and CounterSpy seem to be plain vanilla.

For the best advice, see http://www.spywarewarrior.com. Browse the web
pages and forums. Follow the links and the guidelines given, and you
should be "safe enough".

 

To add to this:

CounterSpy comes from a well-known spammer. Would you trust a program knowing
that?

http://makeashorterlink.com/?L10E553FA

"I wouldn't. Not in a million years."

 

My Mum always said don't type with your mouth full - have no idea who
came up with those proverbs but I wasn't quoting them either now was
I?

Well aren't you the lucky little booger?

When testing other

Well goody for you - I'm saying for a pc that is infested with
malware your "free" tools don't hold a candle to SpySweeper or
CounterSpy.

I'm

When did the conversation go into your sexual habits?

well.

Reasonably well? Who the hell wants reasonable? I want them to do the
job exceptionally well - and the two tools I recommend do so.

There you go again misquoting me.

Yes - so why do you keep misquoting me?

though. Many

Yes - I'm sure many tools do - in fact some other "free" tools do
nothing more than install trojans or delete critical Windows files
causing a big mess. Check out Spywarewarrior.com for more info.

Note

Are you hungry? Is that it? G. All this talk of food...

Oh you know of spywarewarrior but fail to comprehend? Get a Snickers.
Safe enough - bah. No wonder we have half of all pc's on the Internet
running with this crap - people like you telling everyone they are
"safe" enough while their pc's are running as Zombies.

 

Thanks Mara- I had no idea they (sunbelt) were considered spammers by
so many. Sad cause they do have some good software - good
software/Spam Spam/goodsoftware arrrghhh. Ok you win.