spam and fraud

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by kendra, Aug 22, 2005.

  1. kendra

    kendra Guest

    Hi I created this email account for the sole purpose of using it in groups.
    Since i don't use it for anything else, I didn't bother to camouflage it.
    Anyway, i've got daily emails from paypal, ebay and Bank of the West as well
    as a lottery site etc all wanting to have personal details. I generally
    ignore these but I wondered if I should be reporting them, if there is a
    single authority to report all these emails to (already sent a few to
    ) and if reporting them will make a difference since the
    people who sent them can easily change emails, pcs , sites etc
    Essentially. the question is, would I be helping in any way if I reported
    kendra, Aug 22, 2005
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    trout Guest

    Every little bit, done by enough people, helps.
    You might consider getting some help in dealing with the bulk, though.
    You could check out Spamcop:
    trout, Aug 22, 2005
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  3. Once in a while I do, most of the time I don't. I think it's pretty
    much a lost cause, but every now and then I still feel like reporting a
    phish or two.
    Blinky the Shark, Aug 22, 2005
  4. kendra

    kendra Guest

    Does it annoy them if I use mailwasher to bounce back the messages? They
    already know I use the account so I wouldn't be confirming anything...?
    kendra, Aug 22, 2005
  5. kendra

    trout Guest

    No, don't bounce mail. It won't get back to forged senders, and can
    burden unrelated systems.
    trout, Aug 22, 2005
  6. Don't ever bounce spam. Usually it's using a stolen address, and all
    you're doing by bouncing it is spamming the real owner. That just
    compounds the problem.
    Blinky the Shark, Aug 22, 2005
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    kendra Guest

    Thanx i wont
    kendra, Aug 22, 2005
  8. kendra

    Mike Easter Guest

    Spamcop's algorithm simply reports the spamsource and spamvertiser
    links. Besides spamcop for 'general' spam reporting, for phishes and
    pharming^3 there is a central reporting site^0 and address.

    You can use their archive^1 to see if the particular item has been
    reported before, you can use their eml addy or website to report^2, and
    it^1 also provides access to links for the various entities of the phish
    who want reports submitted at their own sites.

    Marjolein Katsma's site^4 has a number of 'special' reporting addresses
    for particular types of spam. So does SpamLinks^5

    Software piracy
    Multimedia piracy (Music, Video, Cable)
    419 or "Nigerian" scams
    Lottery scams
    "Spoofing" or "Phishing" for banking or credit card data
    Other spoofs, password scams
    MLM / Ponzi / Pyramid schemes & chain letters
    Stock fraud, securities fraud and investment-related spam
    Pornography involving children ("kiddie porn") or animals
    Drugs, On-line pharmacies, (bogus) health products

    Mike Easter, Aug 22, 2005
  9. kendra

    Mike Easter Guest

    A few other comments about spamhandling, spam reporting, and

    For 'bulk' spam reporting, one strategy is to not read any spam subjects
    or froms for spam identification, but to have a powerful proxy
    spamfilter like SpamPal [or SpamAssassin] to tag all of the spams so
    that they can be message ruled away from your inbox into a Junk folder.
    That way there is nothing but goodmail in the Inbox, which was not
    designed to be used to determine spam from nonspam.

    Those Junk folder spams can be quickly inspected with a 'jaundiced' eye,
    knowing that they are spams before encountering them. Such inspection
    might just consist of looking at the Xines added by the SP filter to
    confirm their spammishness. It shouldn't be neccessary to open them. A
    regular spamcop reporter has an additional layer of inspection, because
    when spams are submitted to spamcop, they are parsed and the interior
    examined and the reporting addresses are approved before notifying the

    Some spamcop reporters want to be able to handle a volume of spam more
    quickly and use quick reporting which only reports the spamsource which
    is thus contributed to the spamcop blocklist, and not the spamvertiser
    providers, many of which are blackhats anyway. Today's SC
    quickreporting requires configuration for mailhosts, which greatly
    reduces the chances of a mistaken spamcop parse and report.

    So, quickreporters can report all of their spams in a few seconds per
    day and contribute to the source blocklist. This also aids their own
    filter if the SCbl is part of the suite of DNS blocklists which their
    spamfilter incorporates.

    Those reporters who like to do more than spamsource report can examine
    the bodies or content of their spams and report the particular spam
    types to the appropriate addresses described previously. That type of
    reporting takes more time and looking at ugly spam than does
    quickreporting of unopened but filter segregated spam.

    Unfortunately, the world is full of spamreaders who are not reporters.
    Those spamreaders are very often profitting spammers. They think they
    read spam for amusement, but many are not properly pledged to never aid
    a spammer, and many more are handling spam insecurely, and so they are a
    significant part of the problem and aren't part of the solution at all.
    Mike Easter, Aug 22, 2005
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    Plato Guest

    The best help is to ignore them.
    Plato, Aug 22, 2005
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