Sony and Nichia share over 800 basic patents for Blue-Violet LaserDiode and Blu-ray

This post is to school you psycho-schizo xflop fanbitch idiot zombies.
On one hand, you whine "DUH GHEYMZ, DUH GHEYMZ!!!" when Blu-ray is the
subject, then on the other hand you counter with some limp wrist "DUH
HD-DUD IZ DUH DATAZ ANDZ DUH SONYZ DUZN'T PWNZ DUH BLUR-RAYZ!!!". It
has always struck me how incredibly dense, stupid and ignorant the
xflop fanbitches can be.

Look, I am putting this on a separate line so even you illiterate
retards can get it: BLU-RAY IS *NOT* JUST A MOVIE FORMAT. IT IS A
GENERAL INEXPENSIVE PORTABLE HIGH DENSITY DATA FORMAT, MEANING GAMES,
MOVIES AND DATA.

Blu-ray drives are going to follow the same path as DVD. Here is the
progression, dumbed down so even you idiots should be able to
understand it. First, just like DVD, there will be fairly expensive BD-
ROM drives included with higher end PC's. Then, the BD-ROM drives will
drop rapidly in price. After that, higher end PC's will have fairly
expensive BD+R/RE drives included. From there, the price of BD+R/RE
drives will drop rapidly until, after awhile, inexpensive BD+R/RE will
be standard drives for almost every PC. This is the exact same
progression that happened for DVD and took about 5 years. About 3
years in, PC games started showing up on DVD until now, they are all
on DVD. The same is going to happen with Blu-ray. So, it is about DUH
GHEYMZ, you idiots.

And guess who owns the Blue-Violet Laser Diode and the Blu-ray
technology? Sure, Samsung and Sharp are now manufacturing Blue-Violet
Laser Diodes -- but only after licensing the technology from Sony and
Nichia. Some people remember when only Sony and Nichia manufactured
blue-violet laser diodes and it wasn't that long ago. Blu-ray becoming
the standard read/write portable high data density medium and drive
for PC's means tons of cash coming for Sony and Nichia. xflop
fanbitches am cry.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press_Archive/200404/04-0422E/

April 22, 2004

Cross License Agreement of Blue-Violet Laser Diode
related Patents for Optical Disc

Nichia Corporation (hereafter "Nichia") and Sony Corporation
(hereafter "Sony") have come to an agreement on the cross license of
Blue-Violet Laser Diode (hereafter Blue-Violet LD) related patents for
optical disc use.

In December 2002, Nichia and Sony have agreed to collaborate on the
development of Blue-Violet LD as well as building-up an environment to
share the usage of the related technologies which the 2 companies
possess, to accelerate the growing demand of Blue-Violet LD. Nichia
and Sony have also worked in collaboration on the Blue-Violet LD
development for optical disc recording/play-back use.
The cross license agreement will further strengthen the
collaboration and will enable usage of all related patents on Blue-
Violet LD, with no time limit, in the field of the optical disc
recording/playback usage. Collectively, there are approximately 800
patent applications in total filed by both companies.

Blue-Violet LD is a 405nm wavelength semiconductor laser which will
be vital for Blu-ray disc system, enabling digital recording of high-
definition (HD) contents (movies) in consumer use and professional
disc system XDCAM. It is the key device in the HD era, in various
occasions where high quality images/movies are the key in HD contents
creation in Digital HD broadcasting and recording/play-back in
consumer use.

Through the cross-license, in addition to Nichia, which is most
advanced on a world-wide basis as the Blue-Violet LD supplier, Sony
will also mass-produce and be the supplier of Blue-Violet LD, leading
to building-up a stable environment of the supply of Blue-Violet LD
for optical disc use, required for Blu-ray disc system market which is
expected increase significantly.
The convergence of technologies of both companies lead to achieving
cost-down by improving production efficiency and further enhancing the
production design/manufacturing of higher-performance/high-level-
output Blue-Violet LD.
Results of the join developments so far have already been
implemented in mass production by both companies, and mass production
shipment by Nichia and partial shipment of evaluation samples to other
companies by Sony are under process.

Both companies have agreed to continue to collaborate in technology
development, leading to enhanced performance of Blue-Violet LD and
contribution in the development of Blu-ray disc and XDCAM market.

 

May be not as the DVD license holder was not Sony and Sony is very
greedy. Don't look for everyone to start manufacturing BD-ROM drives
right away.

You made my point "...but only after licensing the technology from
Sony and Nichia"
There will be other options for High Capacity Storage.

 

So...you want us to applaud you for picking the right format?
Gee, you only had a 50-50 chance of getting THAT one right.

 

I'm putting this on a seperate line as well:
THE XBOX 360 AND PS3 ARE NOT PRIMARILY MOVIE PLAYERS OR DATA STORAGE
DEVICES. THEY WERE INTENDED TO BE GAME CONSOLES. THEY DO NOT REQUIRE
HIGH CAPACITY DISKS TO FUNCTION. GAMES WORK FINE ON DVD. ALSO, BLU-
RAY IS NOT "INEXPENSIVE". ITS COST WAS AND STILL IS A MAJOR REASON
THE PS3 IS SOLD AT SUCH A LOSS THUS NECESSITATING A HIGH GAME
ATTACHMENT RATE FOR SONY TO MAKE A PROFIT BUT THIS IS NOT HAPPENING
YET.

Let's hope it's at least $700 million (plus interest).

 

THE XBOX 360 AND PS3 ARE NOT PRIMARILY MOVIE PLAYERS OR DATA

Except that the PS3 was never designed to be just a game console. Sony
themselves say that the PS3 was designed to be a media hub.

Except for games that have more than 8 gig of content.

Maybe in your world, but Sony is laughing all the way to the bank now that
HDDVD is dead.

 

They said that primarily to justify the high price. The fact is the
PS3 cannot be a profitable product for Sony until it becomes more of a
game console and less as a movie player.

The 8 gig limitation hasn't been a problem for the 360 thus far and
isn't likely to be a major problem during the life of the 360. Plus
it's not going to be a showstopper if a few games have to ship on
multiple DVD's.

Again, what does HD-DVD dying have to do with the PS3 as a successful
and PROFITABLE game playing device?

 

Sony doesn't ask WHY you buy a PS3...

Derek Janssen

 

Well maybe they should. If a person has only the intention of
watching movies Sony would much rather them go buy a stand-alone Sony
Blu-ray player instead of a PS3.

 

If you buy an S300 that doesn't work, or if you buy a PS3 that does, for
movie-watching only, and play a Sony disk on either one, why should that
trouble their sleep any?

Derek Janssen

 

Because Sony loses more money on selling you a $400 PS3 as a movie
player than selling you the $400 S300.

 

What, because you're "not playing games"?

Well, um....play a game then. Or not. Knock yer freakin' self out.

Derek Janssen

 

Hmm. So I guess that would make someone an idiot for NOT getting that
one right if it was that simple.

 

Because Sony loses more money on selling you a $400 PS3 as a movie
player than selling you the $400 S300.

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But, Sony (as well as MS) make their money on peripheral hardware and
software sales, so if they sell more PS3s, they also are going to sell both
movies and games. From a marketing standpoint, they cannot lose on this
scenario.

 

Which is why it's failing as a game console.

With the exception of blu-ray, the 360 can do all the same media tricks
that the PS3 can do - and I really don't care. I want games.

There has yet to be a PS3 game that would not fit onto a DVD. Games like
Heavenly Sword only take up so much space because they put every language
version on the same disc. Normally these languages would appear on
different versions of the game. Other games have to use replicated data
across the disc to help with the PS3's blu-ray drive's otherwise slow data
transfer. This is hardly the evidence slam-dunk that proves that blu-ray
isn't just "nice", but "REQUIRED" for gaming that Sony claims it is.

Also, on the 360 side of things, there's only been one game so far that
hasn't fit on a single DVD, and that's a RPG, which have been been released
on multiple discs since CDs were first starting to make their appearance in
the console game world.

Try again.

Sony may have won the next generation of home video, but they're in real
danger of losing the this generation of game consoles, and have damaged
their chances for the next generation as well. I hope the tradeoff was
worth it.

 

Gee...Guess they may just have to take all that leftover game processing
technology and make Blu-ray players that work as well as the PS3,
instead. ^_^

Derek Janssen (somewhere on Gilligan's Island, there's a Japanese
soldier still shouting "The PS3's a game-machine flop!" long after the
War was over)

 

No, but the PS3 comes from the video game arm of Sony - not the A/V
products arm of Sony.

Unlike Sony's TVs or cameras, the PS3 by itself doesn't make money. If
anything, it's sold at a loss to help get consoles into the market.
Although I think right now, Sony is selling the PS3 at about the
break-even point, meaning they're not losing money...but aren't making any
either. Game consoles - which is what the Playstation is - make their
money from the sales of games, not movies. So long as the sale of PS3
games is also increasing along with PS3 console sales, Sony may be OK.
However if too many people just buy the PS3 to use as a blu-ray player -
and ONLY as a blu-ray player - Sony won't be making nearly as much money
from those customers. The licensing fees Sony collects from a single sale
of a PS3 game is far more than what Sony can collect from the licensing
and sale of a single Blu-Ray movie.

It would be rather odd, but not surprising, if the PS3 ended up near the
top in terms of hardware sales, but near the bottom in terms of software
sales.

 

In fact, it would be rather astonishing.

Derek Janssen

 

Sony makes more from the sale of the S300 vs. the sale of the PS3.
They're also different departments, so while Sony's studios may make money
from the sale of blu-ray discs, Sony's video game department loses money
on the sale of the PS3, and then more money when the customer fails to buy
any games for it.

 

Um, let's ask a nice, smarmy and despicably insufferable question Doug:
Just who WON the damn war, anyway? As in, "Who"?

Samsung? Panasonic? The Sharp players we never got? Those LG
dual-players (which they still intend to make)?
How about the studios?...No, wait, as you point out, disks are
meaningless unless there's something to play it on.
Oh, wait, I know!--Maybe it was all those fine, cutting-edge Sony
S300's, and their expert "Future of entertainment is here" craftsmanship!

Hmm, well, we *know* it couldn't have been the PS3, because it flopped
as a game machine.
Gee, that's puzzling. Maybe nobody won the war. Maybe it never
happened. ^_^

Derek Janssen (whew, man, I'm worn out; this denial stuff's a workout,
how do you manage it??)

 

But they are buying games for it Doug. If you go back just 5 months ago,
the PS3 had only 2 games sell a million+ to that date and no other games
over 500K. Now fast forward to now, and you have 8 game that sold a million+
and a total of 20 games over 500K. How is this not selling games, even if
they are cross-platform, the PS3 versions are still selling which is MAKING
Sony money. Worldwide, the PS3 has been on par with the 360 in selling
games, this with the fact that the 360 has a 7mil+ install base over the
PS2. If the PS3 had the same sales totals in consoles, you wouldn't want to
see the disparity. So tell everyone how Sony isn't selling games.