Snapshots of Afghanistan - August 2009

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by Kulvinder Singh Matharu, Aug 26, 2009.

  1. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Bob Larter Guest

    In general, averaging the organiser figures with the police figures will
    give you a sane estimate of the numbers.
     
    Bob Larter, Sep 15, 2009
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  2. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Bob Larter Guest

    Got any cites to support that claim?
    Did the Iraq government know about them & approve of them?
     
    Bob Larter, Sep 15, 2009
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  3. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Bob Larter Guest

    Yes, I would. If W had announced that the 9/11 terrorists were based in
    / backed by Saudi Arabia, & decided to invade Saudi Arabia, I would've
    said: "Fair enough - they deserve it".
     
    Bob Larter, Sep 15, 2009
  4. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Bob Larter Guest

    Yep, really. I'm not a pacifist - if anyone invades my country, & I'll
    pick up a rifle & do everything I can to kick them out.
    You think I hate the USA, but that's not the case. Half of my close
    friends are American.
    No, I wouldn't. Unlike Iraq, the evidence against Saudi Arabia is pretty
    solid. If the USA were to suddenly pull up stakes in Iraq & start
    bombing Saudi Arabia, I wouldn't necessarily think it was was the best
    idea in the world, but I'd consider it totally justified.
     
    Bob Larter, Sep 15, 2009
  5. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Bob Larter Guest

    Bob Larter, Sep 15, 2009
  6. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Chris H Guest

    He can't have. I know I was in Kurdistan in the late 1980s What there
    was were Kurdish Guerrillas who were being trained on the Iranian side
    of the Iraq Iran border.

    These forces were anti-Bhagdad no matter who was in charge ans they
    wanted a free Kurdish state.
    It knew about the Kurdish Guerillas and attacked them with bombs and
    gas. This was inside Iraq. The training camps were generally inside
    Iran. Some were along the Iraqi Turkish border.

    The US bombed some of them as at the time Iran having got rid of the
    Shar was Islamic and therefore a target for the US (who were aiding
    Saddam). The US had aircraft, CIA and Special Forces in Kurdistan
    operating out of Diyarbakir .

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/diyarbakir.htm

    This one was also running in the late 1980's
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/batman.htm


    No other cites other than a few roles of film I took in Kurdistan.
     
    Chris H, Sep 15, 2009
  7. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Chris H Guest

    So if there was no justification for attacking Saudi there is even less
    for attacking Afghanistan and none at all for attacking Iraq.
     
    Chris H, Sep 16, 2009
  8. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Bob Larter Guest

    Bush did.
    Rubbish.
     
    Bob Larter, Sep 18, 2009
  9. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Chris H Guest

    SO why didn't the US do that? No, it didn't it did a full scale
    invasion despite eye on the ground doing recce.
    That si up to the UN otherwise the UK has reason to bomb the USA.
    No it was hatched up by Bush......
     
    Chris H, Sep 18, 2009
  10. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    mikey4 Guest

    What would you suggest to win this fight?
     
    mikey4, Sep 19, 2009
  11. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Chris H Guest

    Difficult... The USA dug a huge hole way before 9/11 and dragged others
    in with it.

    The answer in Iraq is to get out. The Iraqi's will have a blood bath for
    6 months to sort out the rival factions. It will end up with a pro
    Iranian system of eastern democracy. This will mean that The
    Mediterranean to Afghanistan will be pro Iranian.

    Remove US support for Israel and start enforcing UN resolutions and
    Sanctions against Israel. Long run Israel will not survive in it's
    current form. Note the US has to separate Israel == Jew.

    This whilst causing problems in Israel will calm the area from N. Africa
    to China. Including Afghanistan

    The way to solve Afghanistan will be along road and requires serious
    changes in the way the US military operates. It will in the short term
    give a higher US body count as you will need to do foot patrols and not
    just shoot in the general direction of gunshots. Also stop the drone
    attacks. I am not sure the US military is up to the task for this.

    This will change the nature of this *POLICE ACTION* it is not a war.
    Coupled with the other changes about it will take the heat out of the
    situation.

    The politicians then have to talk to the Tailban. Many of them will
    get back into power in the free elections. Live with it.

    What the situation is now is damage limitation and not loosing. The
    afghans have a weapon the US does not have.... time. For the Afghans a
    decade is not long. For the Americans it is at least 3 presidents.
     
    Chris H, Sep 20, 2009
  12. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Chris H Guest

    Who is the "they" that doesn't ?
     
    Chris H, Sep 20, 2009
  13. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Ray Fischer Guest

    He didn't.

    Obviously.
    We don't need to see into the future anymore, rightard.
     
    Ray Fischer, Sep 20, 2009
  14. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    mikey4 Guest

    I ask a straight forward question to a person *who* seems to have better
    information than I and I can't get an answer.
     
    mikey4, Sep 21, 2009
  15. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    Chris H Guest


    I am a life long Tory (republican to you) NOT a liberal and certainly
    not a socialist!

    I have Military experience. Including ME and counter terrorist.

    As for seeing into the future things have happened as predicted over the
    last 8 years. I think I have a track record of being 80-90% correct. But
    then it is not rocket science.

    The Bush administration made all the mistakes predicted... that is why
    it lost in Iraq and can not win in Afghanistan. Though it took 6 years
    for the US military to admit this publicly
     
    Chris H, Sep 21, 2009
  16. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    mikey4 Guest

    So once again I will ask, what would you, Chris, suggest?
     
    mikey4, Sep 22, 2009
  17. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    mikey4 Guest

    I agree with all the points. I said to a friend, Iraq and Afghanistan are
    the Tar Babies (see Uncle Remus books) and like Briar Bear we are stuck to
    them. These two wars, conflicts or whatever you want to call them are now
    Obama's and I doubt you will see a very rapid and total withdrawal from
    either country.
     
    mikey4, Sep 22, 2009
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    tony cooper Guest

    The "tar baby" analogy is on-target, but it was Brer Rabbit who got
    stuck.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 22, 2009
  19. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    mikey4 Guest

    Your right Tony. Its been a long time since my mom read those stories. My
    little brother had the Uncle Remus book(s) that we grew up with rebound,
    they are a real treasure.
     
    mikey4, Sep 22, 2009
  20. Kulvinder Singh Matharu

    tony cooper Guest

    You count 4,345 American soldiers as "nothing"?
     
    tony cooper, Sep 22, 2009
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