[QUOTE="whisky-dave <whisky-"]\nthey aren't that easy,[/QUOTE]\n\nThey are\n[QUOTE]\nyou do have to know the right people. True.\n\nI've lived my area of london for 20+ years and haven't seen a gun shop.\nIn fact I've never seen a gun shop in England[/QUOTE]\n\nThis proves that you do not see much. I have seen hundreds. Actually\nmany fishing, horse and "country" shops were also gun shops.\n[QUOTE]\nI giess you can buy them\nsomewhere though. I did hear of a pub a few miles away where you could\nget one for about £200 'under the counter'.[/QUOTE]\n\nThis is where most come from now.\n\n[QUOTE]\nThey do.[/QUOTE]\n\nThey don't\n[QUOTE]\nJust look at the stats.[/QUOTE]\n\nThe Office of statistics has already had a go at the government over\nit's massaging and misuse of statistics. Also this government has lied\nmore than any other in history.\n[QUOTE]\nSo gun clubs don't have guns,[/QUOTE]\n\nWhat gun clubs? Most have gone.\n[QUOTE]\nthat looks pretty bad for our\n2012 olympic team then, how the frak will they practice.[/QUOTE]\n\nThey usually practice in France and have had one hell of a time getting\npermits to bring the guns into the UK for the Olympics... For them it is\nmuch more difficult than any other nation!!! Not sure why but it is\nsomething to do with them being UK nationals domiciled in the UK but\nclaiming they are "just visiting" the UK (from the UK)\n[QUOTE]\nAh computer simulation[/QUOTE]\n\nIt's not the same.