Re: Peterson's Death Sentence

Discussion in 'Linux Networking' started by Aunty Kreist, Jan 20, 2005.

  1. Aunty Kreist

    Aunty Kreist Guest

    Why John, how very white of you to inform Pip what her reasons and emotions
    should be.

    Sure it isn't a malignant tumor? And still being so considerate, telling
    people what should and shouldn't disturb them. That's quite an ego you have
    there! I'm sure people will be polite, and not laugh at you *too* loudly.

    That is opinion, not fact.

    It's the taking of a life which, had it not
    Proof? I expect you to give cites.

    Wow, someone sure has sour grapes.

    You can't stay on your geek group without coming here to spout off fundie
    brainwashed garbage, can you?

    IOW, you have nothing intelligent to add. No surprise there.

    In your case, it would certainly be beneficial to us all. Now don't you have
    some calculus or something to do?

    Aunty Kreist, Jan 20, 2005
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    uvcceet Guest

    In <>, on 01/19/05
    Hey there. Take a look at the subject line of this thread for the answer
    to your need for proof.

    The only reason old scotty there got the death penalty was because he
    killed his unborn son, aka, the fetus (as referred to by the other

    If killing an unborn child is not murder, how come scotty boy is gonna die
    for doing it?
    uvcceet, Jan 20, 2005
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    Aunty Kreist Guest

    Um....because he also killed the human the fetus was attached to.

    But, you raise a good point...when does a fetus become a human life?
    Aunty Kreist, Jan 20, 2005
  4. Aunty Kreist wrote:

    I can't see the original post, but what the hell...

    Ahmmm. Someone who unjustifiable takes a life should have his life
    taken, imo. This is because life is *so* precious, it should never be
    taken without good reason. Good reasons are to prevent or punish someone
    from taking a life unjustifiable. The *only* reason I am against the
    death penalty is because one must have absolute proof that the person
    executed is guilty. Killing an innocent person is not an option in this
    type of situation imo.

    So, I absolutely believe that cold blooded killers should be executed in
    principle, but must not be, due the lack of absolute proof of guilt.
    Complete nonsense. We only need you be concerned about a "life" after it
    has first become *conscious*. Before something becomes conscious it is
    no more then a carrot. What *makes* a life, that needs consideration for
    its *own* sake, is a brain. Period.
    I suppose this depends on the definition of "murder". Is it a legal one,
    or one what we personally consider is murder. For me, certainly before
    about 3 months there are simply no significant neuron connections in a
    brain to make a conscious mind, so until that time, the foetus is no
    more than a carrot.

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    Parse Tree Guest

    It doesn't. It's a parasite until it leaves the host.
    Parse Tree, Jan 20, 2005
  6. Ah, "host". That's where comp.os.linux.networking comes in play, hm?

    OK, I kill child processes every day on my host, hoping they don't
    become zombies. And I don't feel guilty about that.

    Sorry, but I can't see any reason why comp.os.linux.networking is
    in the list of newsgroups to this topic.

    Can anyone enlighten me? Otherwise please take care not to post
    this thread to comp.os.linux.networking anymore. Thanks.
    Marco Dieckhoff, Jan 20, 2005
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    Paul Burke Guest

    Everybody who supports the death penalty should be shot.

    Paul Burke
    Paul Burke, Jan 20, 2005
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    Reg Edwards Guest

    Proof? I expect you to give cites.======================

    How can cites provide proofs?

    They are merely yet more opinions, no more reliable than the person who
    didn't quote one.

    Often more unreliable because of being taken out of context or misquoted.

    Either you accept a statement or you dont accept it.
    Reg Edwards, Jan 20, 2005
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    Reg Edwards Guest

    Everybody who supports the death penalty should be shot.======================

    By who ?
    Reg Edwards, Jan 20, 2005
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    Andy Guest

    Andy replies:

    Having raised 2 girls and a boy , I know from personal
    experience that a fetus does not take on human characteristics
    until approximately 20 years after birth...

    Up until that time, abortions should be legalized....
    Andy :>))))
    Andy, Jan 20, 2005
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    Paul Burke Guest

    By people who can use the correct form for the ablative.

    paul Burke
    Paul Burke, Jan 20, 2005
  12. Someone else who supports the death penalty.

    It would solve a lot of problems and diminish support for the death penalty in one go.
    richard mullens, Jan 20, 2005
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    Rhyanon Guest

    Very gray area, but it would seem to me that it's when the fetus can survive
    outside the womb. Given med. technology, that's around the middle of the
    second trimester....
    Rhyanon, Jan 20, 2005
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    John Fields Guest

    And how very presumptuous of you to inform me that that's not what I
    should be doing?
    Unfortunately, sometimes they are. Like Peterson. And, perhaps, you?
    Didn't your mommy ever tell you that there's no boogey man?
    Laugh away, if you choose. It's all just my opinion, and if you want
    to kill your kids, then go for it!
    It doesn't matter how thin you slice it, when you're done the fact
    still remains that had that embryo not been killed it might have made
    it to term.
    Reducto ad absurdium, look around you. See all the people that
    _weren't_ murdered before they were born?
    The connotation of "sour grapes" is generally that of grudging envy or
    jealousy, but you seem to be driving at something else. Care to
    expound on what you mean?
    Hey, asshole, I have as much right to be here and to voice my opinions
    as anyone does. If you don't like it, then plonk me or go kill a
    baby, if that'll make you feel better.
    LOL! Look at what _you've_ written so far; a bunch of emotionally
    generated half-baked accusations backed up with a little vitriol.

    John Fields, Jan 20, 2005
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    John Fields Guest

    John Fields, Jan 20, 2005
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    John Fields Guest

    So it would be OK to blow away confessed killers?

    Utter hogwash. Killing a live, growing organism which will eventually
    become sentient for no other reason than to prevent it from becoming
    sentient is murder, pure and simple.
    John Fields, Jan 20, 2005
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    John Fields Guest

    John Fields, Jan 20, 2005
  19. When the nervous system has the complexity of a mouse brain then it's on a par
    with a mouse. Ditto for every other stage of development.


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    John Fields Guest

    John Fields, Jan 20, 2005
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