Raiders Jumps

While watching the "Raiders Of The Lost Ark" DVD tonight, I noticed two
instances when the image appeared to "jump" a bit, as if perhaps a frame
was missing. These occur at 15.21, after Jones and Brody have entered the
hallway outside the classroom, and at 17.12 during the meeting with the fat
and thin army intelligence men.

My player (a Pioneer DV-563A) is still very new so I'm wondering if perhaps
it's simply failing to read the disc properly. Has anyone else noticed
such? Thanks to all who care to reply.

 

<<While watching the "Raiders Of The Lost Ark" DVD tonight, I noticed
two instances when the image appeared to "jump" a bit, as if perhaps a
frame was missing. These occur at 15.21, after Jones and Brody have
entered the hallway outside the classroom, and at 17.12 during the
meeting with the fat and thin army intelligence men.>>

<<My player (a Pioneer DV-563A) is still very new so I'm wondering if
perhaps it's simply failing to read the disc properly. Has anyone else
noticed such? Thanks to all who care to reply.>>


My Sony 550 does the same thing.

The skipped frame from the hallway scene at 15.21 is nearly
imperceptible, however, I can plainly see the skipped frame in the
classroom scene at 17.12. (Actually, it looks as though a missing frame
has been replaced by a repeated frame in both instances. This procedure
is done all the time in some other movies.)


There are probably other instances of skipped frames that you haven't
seen yet.

 

Just played back the scenes a few times and didn't notice any jumping
or skipping. Are you able to play the disc on another player?
Depending on the result you may conclude that the problem is with the
first player or if not your disc. Good luck!

 

My player completely stopped at the army intelligence scene, didn't
notice anything like that during the hallway scene. I fast-forwarded
myself out of the jam, then rewound, it played smoothly after that.

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<<<While watching the "Raiders Of The Lost Ark" DVD tonight, I noticed
two instances when the image appeared to "jump" a bit, as if perhaps a
frame was missing. These occur at 15.21, after Jones and Brody have
entered the hallway outside the classroom, and at 17.12 during the
meeting with the fat and thin army intelligence men.>>>

<<<My player (a Pioneer DV-563A) is still very new so I'm wondering if
perhaps it's simply failing to read the disc properly. Has anyone else
noticed such? Thanks to all who care to reply.>>>

<<Just played back the scenes a few times and didn't notice any jumping
or skipping. Are you able to play the disc on another player? Depending
on the result you may conclude that the problem is with the first player
or if not your disc. Good luck!>>

The hallway scene at 15.21 is hard to see, however, the classroom scene
at 17.12 is easier to see. (Keep in mind that this is very difficult to
notice if you aren't looking for it.)

In this scene, you will see a man on the left of the screen facing
Indiana Jones as Indiana's image moves slowly to the left of the screen.
Just as Indiana's image starts to move behind the larger image of the
man on the left of the screen, the frame jumps slightly and Indiana's
image moves quickly to the left as one frame is skipped and another
frame is repeated.

I don't think this is the fault of the player.

 

Thanks! Apart from those two odd moments the new DVD transfer is simply
wonderful and easily the best home video copy this old LD fanatic has
ever seen. Have to admit it's rather good someone else noticed the
glitches, though.

 

If you wanna see Raiders NOT jumping, check out the Oakland Raiders!! LOL!!

SpeedByrd PhD

 

From: "Jeff Pearson" <>
Subject: Re: Raiders Jumps
Date: Monday, October 27, 2003 8:20 PM

<<Thanks! Apart from those two odd moments the new DVD transfer is
simply wonderful and easily the best home video copy this old LD fanatic
has ever seen. Have to admit it's rather good someone else noticed the
glitches, though.>>


I agree that this is the best that _Raiders of the Lost Ark_ has ever
looked on home video. Unfortunately, Raiders -- the best movie in the
Indiana Jones trilogy -- has the worst picture. The bit rate of all
three movies is very high, but the picture detail and color of Raiders
is not as good as the other two movies.

If you own _Robin Hood_ (1938), you might run across this glitch, which
has been verified by at least 2 other people:

The glitch occurs during playback of "Glorious Technicolor", which is on
disk 2.

On my copy, at 16 seconds into the presentation, when Esther Williams
says the word "Technicolor", there is a slight, one frame picture
disruption with minor pixelation and an audible "scratch" noise. So far,
this is the only flaw that I have found on the disk.

There are absolutely no visible surface blemishes.

 

It does this on my Onkyo DV-S555, too. I picked that jump out the
first time we watched it. Easy to pick out because your eyes are on
Indy as he moves from right to left.
Anyone else notice the floating, oval smears in the upper part of
the picture that appear a couple times throughout the movie? I wonder
what they are. I could start looking for them, but it would take me
forever to find them.

 

<<It does this on my Onkyo DV-S555, too. I picked that jump out the
first time we watched it. Easy to pick out because your eyes are on
Indy as he moves from right to left.>>
<<Anyone else notice the floating, oval smears in the upper part of
the picture that appear a couple times throughout the movie? I wonder
what they are. I could start looking for them, but it would take me
forever to find them.>>

www.cloakanddagger.ca


Could those be the so-called cigarette burns which were used to alert
projectionists to the reel change?

First of all, what are cigarette burns?

From the film Fight Club:
JACK: See a movie doesn't come all on one big reel. It comes on a few,
so someone has to be there to switch the projector at the exact moment
that one reel ends and the next one begins. If you look for it, you can
see these little dots come onto the upper right hand corner of the
screen.

TYLER: In the industry, we call them cigarette burns.

JACK: That's the cue for a changeover, he flips the projectors, movie
keeps on going, and nobody in the audience has any idea.

http://www.peak.sfu.ca/the-peak/2002-1/issue1/ar-burns.html

 

That's still a moot point...it's the best image of Raiders I've ever
seen!

 

No, they were in the top middle of the screen, not in the top right
where the markers usually are. Plus, they looked nothing like all the
cigarette burns I've ever seen. I'll have to watch the show again to
see where they are.