Q on MS Nerd (aka "word")

I absolutely hate MS Nerd; it is so klunky, does not do what you tell
it to do, constantly un-does spell ignores, etc & etc.

Aggrivating problem #1: Insert a picture beneath a line of text
(makes no difference if empty lines exist below or not). Then Format and
tell it *beneath* text and centered. Move the picture some. Format is
now *in front" and "any" (or something like that). SO am *forced* to
format the damn picture !twice! every time.
Fixes? Work-arounds?

Aggrivating problem #2: Page numbering seems to be available only in
headers and footers, and there is *NO* way to change the type size or
the font; "format" does not allow you to format such attributes. I do
*not* want microprint page numbers (!!) i want something easily readable.
Fixes? Work-arounds?

 

Word is a bloated elephant of a program but since the 2003 version is at
least more stable than prior versions. It is not any more functional than
Word 97, just more stable.
I do not love Word. I just use it all day almost every day.
You are right, it does "forget" to ignore some auto-spelling and capital
intructions, but how often does that come up really compared to mistyping?
I have no idea what you are referring to in problem one. Word has limits for
complex page formatting with graphics and text. Workarounds involve the use
of columns and other devices. You may need a desktop publishing program if
you have complex formatting requirements.
If I understand your rant you are just plain wrong-headed about problem 2.
Automatic paging is only available in headers and footers. The drop down
boxes are not always intuitively stuctured but it is not that hard to figure
out. The text and page numbers can be formatted to different fonts and type
sizes in headers and footers so I have no idea what you are talking about.
Maybe you should study the help files?

 

Open office anyone?....

 

I have found absolutely NO WAY to change the font size for page numbers.
I was hoping that a work-around might be (automatic) page numbering
in the text area itself, but it seems the only auto page numbering is in
header or footer.
So, *how* does one change the font size of those "page numbers" that
are so small they can hardly be seen?

 

Too late..document transfer is ugly.

 

If one starts with a new document, and types in a short line with a

/ picture, there is a problem.
Selecting placement as behind text and "center" does *not* make it
so; you have to do it a second time before all is OK.
This ain't "fancy" by any means and the damn program should "follow"
instructions - else why the stupid options?

 

try an ms word newsgroup (search google groups for a newsgruop. It has
newsgroups/usenet, as well as the newer google groups)

I use Word 97. As somebody said, it has everything I need. Maybe Word
95 prob did too!!
Even word perfect , 7 i think, was quite good. Maybe even 6.

For page numbers
insert...page number
Then you get a header or footer with a page number in it. Glued on
each page. A bit like a template, but glued. Doesn't move around when
you push enter.

You've got that far.

Now double click the thing. The header, or the footer, depending on
whether the page number is in a header or a footer, (depends on
whether you set it to be top of page or bottom of page).

And you can change the font size.

Just highlight the page number, and up the font size. It seems to
change it on every page - every current page and every new page.

There is a useful option somewhere to add rollover key combinations or
whatever you call them. So I know changing the font size is also CTRL
+SHIFT+P . I tend to use that.


In short. Double click the page number and make the font bigger!!!!

Dunno how you didn't notice that in experimenting!

 

Thanks; i will try that.
"Nerd" is so crappy that i am afraid of experimenting, for fear of
totaly ruining the document.

 

THANKS!! That worked (btw, i am using Nerd 2000).

 

You shouldn't call it Ms Nerd. Considering that you are talking to
nerds, and people that value being a nerd. Obviously if you were more
of a nerd, you wouldn't have this problem. And fortunately for you,
you're nerdy enough to be able to ask your question in a newsgroup.

Ms Word is no more 'nerdy' than any other piece of GUI software.
Except that it works well. And that's why you and others use it. And
that's why Open Office "cloned" it.

Most people are fortunate enough not to be doing the GIRLY job of
writing "documents" full of pictures, inserting pictures in there.

Regarding your spelling ignore.. If word is for some reason undoing
it.. Then why not instead of right clicking the word and choosing
ignore. Choose ADD. Then the word is added to the dictionary, and word
won't put a red squiggly line under it, and it'll still spell check
your document as you write it.

PLAY with Word. Don't be afraid to "ruin a document".
You open a new document and run tests in it. As with LEARNING
ANYTHING. Be it a new programming language, a piece of software, a new
skill, e.t.c. You don't experiment with your word. You experiment on
something that doesn't matter - something that can get screwed up.

Your issues are philosophical.

 

I agree, i should not insult people if the term "nerd" when applied
to M$ Word is applied in a deragatory fashion.
Perhaps i should re-name it M$ Turd?

 

Well, since you didn't even try double clicking the page number as an
attempt to edit it, I don't think the problem there was with MS Word.

Your picture issue also probably has a simple solution.

I just tried , where the inserted picture is clipart.

I see, I inserted a picture.
Typed line below it.
(I don't tell word to put the text below the picture. I did it
myself).

Then since I had put some ENTERs below the picture, I was able to drag
the picture, or actually, the text and the picture, down. (Highlight
them both and drag them down).

And lo and behold, as you said, they lost their alignment, no longer
aligned center.
(I have no idea what you mean about the picture being in front, or
any. I don't see how that is relevant anyway).

The solution to this, the reason why it aligned left, is because the
lines below the picture were aligned left.

This time insery the picture, put the text beneath it. Hit ENTER many
times.
Now before you drag the picture and text.
Highlight the lines below the picture and text, and Align Center (CTRL
+M - M as in middle, as oppose to L or R)

Now when you drag the picture and text down, they will stay in the
middle

Any software requires minimal experimentation. It's more your fault,
than the software.

I think it's wise to say.. They are 3 types of people in this world.
Those that can use MS Word. And maybe another type that can't at all.
I don't normally run into people that can half use it.

I guess - like most people - you can't fix your own computer either.
See, it's YOU !!

 

The reason i want the picture behind the text, is so i can add
comments in the "middle" of the picture.
Even with one line of text at the top, it matters not if there are
<CR>s below that line.
Inserting a picture right below that line requires the formatting
twice unless one is willing to live with the default placement / formatting.
So, i am stuck in formatting twice.

 

I just tried with wordart (insert.. ) and tried to write text over it,
or through it but that didn't work.

then i remembered, I always dra a Textbox. I put text in that. I can
then place text / the box absolutely anywhere. In your case, you can
set the textbox to "no fill" and "no line". Put the box in the middle
of the picture.

I am able to push enter below the thing below the thing (picture with
a textbox over it). And I can drag both down together into the new
lines i've created. Or I can push enter above it, creating new lines
above it, moving it down.

I don't think i've ever asked word to align text in relation to
pictures.


Here I ramble..
A real side point regarding moving these things.. If drawing e.g. a
square, there is an option to not have it move when ENTER is pressed
above it. If you right click it ..format..layout..advanced.."move
object with text". Can uncheck that. I think that's the option
anyway. Not relevant to you, but since I mentioned about pictures
getting moved down when ENTER is held over it.. And also, this is an
option that I hadn't noticed, I only found it by googling the problem.

Another side point..
In html, I vaguely recall that you can move images or text, anywhere,
given co-ordinates. With stylesheets, using inline tag <span>.
A great feature.. The textbox in ms word also allows this concept of
moving the text whereever you want. And they really go anywhere, the
stuff you move the textbox over is untouched. No lines move anywhere.
The textbox overlaps the background and sits in front.

Also, in html, you have the issue of putting text on the same 'line'
as an image, that's the standard way, and it's ugly as hell. Above or
below isn't too bad. But by the side doesn't look good. Ms Word seems
to be similar with text and images.