Olympus C700 - Progress at last!

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by Fred, Dec 28, 2004.

  1. Fred

    Fred Guest

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    Fred, Dec 28, 2004
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  2. Fred

    Fred Guest

    Looks like we're making progress -- thanks to that real nice feller who
    posted and suggested I try using the camera with an AC adapter.

    [Note to the "try a new battery" crowd: No, it wasn't the batteries.]

    I picked up an adapter at Frys Electronics for $19.99. I saw some on ebay
    and elsewhere online cheaper, but by the time you add the $5-10 "shipping
    and handling" and wonder what kind of adapter you're "really" going to get
    and when.... I thought this one was the best choice. And it's a universal
    job - all kinds of voltages, and current up to 2500 mA, so that's fine for
    the C700 and my other junk too.

    First I tried the camera as is - that is on good (new) alkaline batteries
    only - to be sure that it was giving the same problem. Sure enough, same
    problem - one shot or moving the zoom lever and "battery bad" message pops
    up.

    Then I plugged the AC adapter into it and first time every time, the camera
    works again, just like it's supposed to, time after time, zoom in, zoom out,
    click, click, click, click, click....

    Then I removed the AC adapter and used it with the same batteries only again
    and it worked every time, zooms in/out, etc. just fine and no battery bad
    message.

    Someone also said that there might be charging problem -- might be it. May
    be still a partially open circuit, bad solder joint or failing component
    somewhere between the batteries and the power circuit. AC adapter may have
    temporarily charged up capacitors enough to get a few shots from the
    battery-only.

    Time will tell -- will see how many photos I get out of a new set of
    batteries and report back.

    Thanks again to all for all the dozen of constructive help! It took
    several months, but saved me $155 in repair charges and I gain a great deal
    of knowledge about how these things work.

    And a special thanks to all the whiners, complainers, know-it-alls and the
    "just buy another one" boys. Without your endless jabs and ignorant
    comments, I probably would've dropped this months ago! B^)

    Fred
     
    Fred, Dec 28, 2004
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    Fred Guest

    PS -- For others with questions or problems about the C-700, you can
    subscribe to the yahoogroups email list. Lots of very helpful folks
    there....

    To subscribe, visit their homepage http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Oly_C-700/

    Fred again
     
    Fred, Dec 29, 2004
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    Ken Weitzel Guest

    Hi...

    I guess leaving the only realistic possibility a
    high resistance connection in the switch portion
    of the adapter input plug.

    Ah, well, I guess in this case tenacity paid off.
    Congratulations.

    Ken
     
    Ken Weitzel, Dec 29, 2004
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    Fred Guest

    Yes, sounds like it could be. One of these cold rainy weekends I'll take it
    apart and check all the solder connections, etc. Thanks, Ken, for your
    correspondence and help!

    Fred

     
    Fred, Dec 29, 2004
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  6. Sounds very much like a Disaster Waiting To Happen.....

    DS
     
    David Springthorpe, Dec 29, 2004
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  7. Fred

    Ken Weitzel Guest

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    Ken Weitzel, Dec 29, 2004
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    Fred Guest

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    Fred, Dec 29, 2004
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    Fred Guest

     
    Fred, Dec 29, 2004
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    Jerry G. Guest

    My vote is that the batteries are still bad, and there is nothing wrong with
    the camera!

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    Jerry G.
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    Jerry G., Dec 29, 2004
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  11. Well, put it this way, if I ever try to "fix" things they usually end up
    completely stuffed.....

    DS
     
    David Springthorpe, Dec 29, 2004
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    TRR Guest

    Just curious..... what is, or was, the milli/amp rating of the batteries
    that seemed to fail ? The AC adapter you found puts out a lot more
    amps than a same voltage AC transformer for a phone or whatever. Glad
    you're gaining on the problem......
     
    TRR, Dec 29, 2004
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    J. A. Mc. Guest

    So now to use the Olympussy, you're goping to have to tote an AC supply?

    Figures from that company ...


     
    J. A. Mc., Dec 29, 2004
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    Jim Adney Guest

    Sounds to me like there is a contact in the AC adaptor jack that got a
    little resistive from an oxide layer there. Just plugging and
    unplugging the AC adaptor broke the oxide layer and made everything
    good again.

    I know this was a lot of work for you and you deserve a real "attaboy"
    for your efforts. Even thought the solution seems to have been simple,
    getting there was not. There are lots of people here who understand
    and appreciate that.

    If I ever have such a problem with my camera I hope I can remember to
    just push a matching plug into it's adaptor jack a few times to see if
    that helps.

    -
     
    Jim Adney, Dec 30, 2004
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    Fred Guest

    Thanks, TRR.

    No idea on the current rating of the batteries -- they're garden variety,
    off the shelf alkaline AA 1.5V. Over the years, I have tried all the major
    brands with same good results - 100-150 480x640 photos on a set when the
    camera was working good.

    And, yes, it did seem like pretty high current to me, too. But the specs say
    it draws 2100 ma and, snooping around the camera shop, I see that some of
    the others draw high current too.

    Fred

     
    Fred, Dec 30, 2004
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    Fred Guest

    Why I oughta.....

     
    Fred, Dec 30, 2004
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    Fred Guest

    That's right! Know where I can find a 500-ft extension cord?

     
    Fred, Dec 30, 2004
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    Fred Guest

    Thanks for the good words, Jim! It's just a hobby camera and so I'm not in
    a hurry to get if fixed or dish out a couple hundred $$. More fun for me to
    diagnose it and hopefully fix the blasted thing .... and pass along what I
    find out.

    After a few plugging/unplugging, turns out there's no oxide build up on the
    AC receptacle. Dang it, that would've been too much to ask!
     
    Fred, Dec 30, 2004
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    Ken Weitzel Guest

    Hi...

    Dunno how much it matters, if at all... but not
    on the ac receptacle.

    Rather, there's a switch as part of that jack. When you
    insert your plug, it physically pushes the switch open,
    breaking the connection between the battery set and the
    camera. So that the batteries and ac adapter aren't
    paralleled. Naturally it follows that when you remove the
    plug, the "switch" returns to its resting position, so
    that the batteries are once again connected to the camera.

    If you have a stereo and/or headphone set you'll get
    the principle... plug in the headphones and the speakers
    disconnect; remove the plug and the speakers are again
    connected.

    You might try inserting and removing it many times, slowly.
    Perhaps rotating the plug a little while it's inserted.

    I really, really hope that you don't even think about
    dis-assembling your camera. Really. So, if all else
    fails, you might try just a single puff of contact
    cleaner. That jack is an enclosed assembly, spraying
    into it won't be spraying into the camera unless you
    "drown" it.

    So, you might pick up a spray can of contact cleaner
    (in Canada anyway, Radio Shack, about $10 CDN).
    Then holding the camera so the jack is down, give it
    just a single puff into that jack. A tiny, tiny
    amount, a fraction of a second spray. And continuing
    to hold it jack down, immediately insert and remove
    the plug over and over. If the plug is at fault, this
    should clean it up. Leave it air dry overnight, propped
    somehow so it rests plug down. On a sheet of newspaper
    just in case.

    I'm writing from photo.digital, perhaps the sci.electronics
    guys will have better/more advice.

    Take care, and all the best in the new year.

    Ken
     
    Ken Weitzel, Dec 30, 2004
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    Ken Weitzel Guest


    Hi again...

    Quickly added... for safety sake.

    If you DO decide to do the spray cleaner suggestion,
    then wear glasses while you do it. You'll
    be puffing your shot of cleaner against a very very
    small enclosure, and the risk of it blowing back against
    your eyes is great.

    Particularly holding the camera up so as to spray upward
    into the jack.

    Be cautious. Your eyes are worth much more than any
    camera!

    Ken
     
    Ken Weitzel, Dec 30, 2004
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