Nikon updates 50mm lens, ups price 50%

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by RichA, Apr 27, 2011.

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    RichA Guest

    RichA, Apr 27, 2011
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    Bruce Guest


    You get all-new optics with one aspherical element - the latter is a
    very unusual feature for a standard (50mm) lens of modest aperture.

    You get an AF-S motor for fast, near silent focusing.

    For all this you pay 50% more than for a 32 year old optical design
    which is *far* from telecentric. That sounds like reasonable value
    for money.

    If you don't wish to pay for the new design there will be many used
    examples of the old design available ... for years and years and ...
     
    Bruce, Apr 27, 2011
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  3. Corrects spherical aberration.
    Spherical aberration.
     
    Chris Malcolm, Apr 28, 2011
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    RichA Guest

    We do know that these hybrid aspherics are a godsend to the industry
    because they no longer have to grind them, they are molded plastic
    layers on a glass element. They are very cheap to make.
    But I thought Nikon already made one, in the last couple years? $550
    or so, for a plastic 50mm prime at f1.4. Unreal. .

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/585343-GREY/Nikon_2180_AF_S_Nikkor_50mm_f_1_4G.html
    I like the manual Nikkors. all metal, no plastic for the most part,
    except the E-lenses.
     
    RichA, Apr 28, 2011
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    RichA Guest

    That's good. Because Nikon didn't see fit to make any camera under
    the D7000 work with older lenses that don't have motors.
     
    RichA, Apr 28, 2011
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    PeterN Guest

    Have you been able to find such an option to use with the 80-400?
    It would be much quicker for setting hyperfocal distance.
     
    PeterN, Apr 28, 2011
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  7. Me, too - it sounds like it may be an outstanding lens for both
    image quality and ease of use, at a low price compared with the
    f1.4G.
    The "E" was single-coated, but a metal-barreled compact version
    was multi-coated, and then there were the compact MF "P" with
    CPU, and the AF versions with the longer barrels. All had the same
    optical formula, which was quite good (very low linear distortion,
    flare, and ghosting - and very good sharpness to the corners even
    wide open with full-frame). This new one should be a real "winner",
    at a very moderate price.
    --DR
     
    David Ruether, Apr 28, 2011
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    RichA Guest

    Tasco weren't too bad in the 1960's. But they went downhill from
    there, much like Bushnell.
     
    RichA, Apr 28, 2011
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    RichA Guest

    There is no denying cheap aspherics have been a terrific addition to
    new lens designs, but they ARE cheap to make, since they are basically
    "replica optics" and nothing like the hand-made glass element in the
    Noct Nikkor, as an example.
    As such, they shouldn't impact pricing much at all.
     
    RichA, Apr 28, 2011
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    PeterN Guest

    Thanks. anyway. I still like the lens even with it's shortcomings.
     
    PeterN, Apr 29, 2011
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    Bruce Guest


    The early Series E lens had inferior coating, but some elements were
    still multi-coated, just not to the full standard of the contemporary
    "Nikon Integrated Coating" or NIC. The later version of the Series E
    lens had full NIC multi-coating. You can tell the later version
    because a knurled AIS-style chrome ring around the lens replaced the
    black moulded plastic ring.


    Agree 100%. Despite the price rise, and Rich's whining, this is still
    a very inexpensive lens.

    However, I don't expect that we will sell many. I predict that we
    will sell more to our staff than to our customers, most of whom rely
    entirely on zoom lenses.
     
    Bruce, Apr 30, 2011
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  12. You have added a version of the "E" that I had forgotten about...;-)
    There was also a fully "AIS-style" pancake lens, fully multicoated
    that I once owned - said to have been available only in Japan, or
    some such...;-).
    I think you are right. But a lens that surpasses most zooms (and
    likely most 50mm lenses too) for a bargain price should have at
    least SOME appeal among people who care about image quality
    and don't want to pay for and lug around a large and heavy f2.8
    zoom that has only some chance of not being too inferior in
    performance...;-) Also, practically speaking, there has been some
    interest in the much more expensive 50mm f1.4 Nikkor, which is
    likely not much faster in reality, and it likely performs less well at
    f2 and f2.8 than the new f1.8. Lots of guesses, I know, but they
    are based on experience with many lenses, and a look at the f1.8's
    new features. If I weren't out of still photography and into video
    now, I would likely buy this lens..;-)
    --DR
     
    David Ruether, Apr 30, 2011
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  13. The latter I VERY much doubt. I have a not very compact, or
    "super-zoom" Sony 707, and the lens is very sharp even at f2,
    but the overall image quality can't touch that of even so-so lenses
    on a dSLR. And, have you ever seen what a lens like the Nikkor
    14-24mm can do, let alone several lesser lenses?
    Yes, but "true photographers" have included a range from old-time
    photojournalists who cared little about technical quality (to the
    detriment of the effectiveness of their "messages"), to people who
    did care, and who produced very beautiful (and effective) photography.
    One wonders what is in yours, as a pesistent proponent of using only
    "point-'n'-shoot" cameras for photography. There is a wider world
    out there...;-)
    --DR
     
    David Ruether, May 1, 2011
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    John Turco Guest

    <edited for brevity>

    "RichA" is praising >plastic<?

    Incredible!
     
    John Turco, May 12, 2011
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