News login different from mail login

Discussion in 'Firefox' started by William W. Plummer, Apr 4, 2005.

  1. Comcast requires the the "controlling account" username and password for
    logging in to the news server. That's true for all sub-accounts.

    But it looks like Mozilla news account edit doesn't let me put in a
    different User and Password. Suggestions?
     
    William W. Plummer, Apr 4, 2005
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  2. William W. Plummer

    Doug G Guest

    Using Mozilla 1.7.6 my Comcast controlling account's e-mail address and
    password are required to log in to news server, they aren't required for
    each newsgroup on the server. I use a different Comcast e-mail address
    for posting, its password isn't needed.
     
    Doug G, Apr 5, 2005
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  3. Yes, we could both set the server user and password to be the
    controlling account values. That would make news work on both
    machines. BUT, we would be doing mail in the same POP mailbox. No
    good. So, we need a way to specify user&pass for each mailbox, but
    still let news work.
     
    William W. Plummer, Apr 5, 2005
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  4. William W. Plummer

    Doug G Guest

    Are you using two computers?
    Wuo is "we".
     
    Doug G, Apr 5, 2005
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  5. Yes. Two persons, two computers, one Comcast feed with one controlling
    account and one secondary account.
     
    William W. Plummer, Apr 5, 2005
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  6. William W. Plummer

    Doug G Guest

    Try giving the second computer its own Mozilla profile.
     
    Doug G, Apr 5, 2005
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  7. That will not solve the problem. It would mean she would have to select
    one profile for getting mail and then switch to the other profile for
    reading news. If she slipped and selected "get messages" for the mail
    account, she would get my mail rather than hers.

    Mozilla simply needs to be able to specify the user,pass to be used for
    contacting the news server.
     
    William W. Plummer, Apr 5, 2005
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  8. William W. Plummer

    Nick Thomas Guest

    I'm using Thunderbird rather than Mozilla Mail but am prompted for a
    username and password the first time I contact the news (or mail)
    server. I click the "remember" check box to avoid this in future. Did
    that happen for you? You might need to remove any saved username &
    password entries in the preferences if you have wrong information stored
    there.
     
    Nick Thomas, Apr 5, 2005
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  9. William W. Plummer

    Doug G Guest

    The second profile doesn't need to have the primary Comcast e-mail
    account configured in it to use Comcast's news server.
     
    Doug G, Apr 5, 2005
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  10. William W. Plummer

    Moz Champion Guest

    On the second account, simply dont tell Mozilla/Thunderbird to remember
    the password.
    In this manner, no one but you can access your mail, unless you give out
    your password of course.
     
    Moz Champion, Apr 6, 2005
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  11. William W. Plummer

    Moz Champion Guest

    You currently are not allowed two accounts for the same news server (you
    cant create them)
    But you can get around this anyone of two ways

    You can specify the server by numeric value, instead of by name
    i.e. instead of using sas the server name,
    you use 204.29.187.156
    use of this method will create a situation in which the security
    certificate for the site doesnt match the name, click OK on first access
    for the session, it will be accepted for the remainder of the session

    Or, you can use another name for the server and use a hosts file to
    direct it to the proper host
    this should remove the certificate issue problem as well (note, untried
    personally tho, it SHOULD work)
     
    Moz Champion, Apr 6, 2005
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  12. Mozilla development has stopped. So this problem will not be fixed.
    It looks like I'm taking us back to the Microsoft Outlook/Internet
    Explorer setup.
     
    William W. Plummer, Apr 6, 2005
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  13. No it hasn't. It's just passed into different hands.

    David H
     
    David Harrison, Apr 6, 2005
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  14. William W. Plummer

    Doug G Guest

    What problem?
     
    Doug G, Apr 6, 2005
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  15. It is fairly well documented above. Mozilla needs a way to specify a
    username and password for your selected POP server (mail) and a
    different username and password for your selected NNTP server (news).
    Currently, Mozilla uses your mail ID for news as well.
     
    William W. Plummer, Apr 6, 2005
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  16. William W. Plummer

    Doug G Guest

    The usernames for all of my Comcast e-mail accounts is the part of the
    e-mail address before the "@" sign.

    The username for my Comcast news server account is my primary account's
    entire e-mail address.
     
    Doug G, Apr 6, 2005
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  17. So you have said. And I'll repeat that my secondary user needs to put
    HER username and password in for HER email access on HER machine. But
    Mozilla will use that when she tries to access the news server. It
    fails because she is not the primary user. Mozilla is the only
    mail&news system I have seen that doesn't allow specifying the users and
    passwords separately for mail and news.
     
    William W. Plummer, Apr 7, 2005
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  18. William W. Plummer

    Doug G Guest

    Mozilla won't use the same username and password for the POP and NNTP
    servers unless someone tells it to.

    Have her open her Mozilla profile, open its Password Manager, click the
    Show Passwords button and look for lines similar to the following.

    <> a password
    <> a username

    If the lines contain her username and password, she should remove them.
    Then after closing the Password Manager and Mozilla, she should restart
    the program and try to access Comcast's news server.

    When the news server asks for a username and password she should enter
    the primary account's e-mail address for the username and the primary
    account's password for the password.
     
    Doug G, Apr 7, 2005
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  19. William W. Plummer

    Moz Champion Guest

    No it doesnt! Each account, email OR news can have its own username and
    password!
    For example the username I use on one news server doesnt even EXIST as
    an email account, and the one I use on another, while similar to an
    email in use, is NOT an email address

    You can use ANY username/password combination with regards to each
    account, and news accounts are seperate from email accounts

    So what problem?
     
    Moz Champion, Apr 7, 2005
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  20. William W. Plummer

    Moz Champion Guest

    No, Mozilla will NOT use that by default! Mozilla will use whatever
    username/password you give it for THAT account, and a news account is
    seperate from an email account!
     
    Moz Champion, Apr 7, 2005
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