New, Hoping for Newsgroup Focused on Scanning and Editing

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by Don Kirkman, Feb 16, 2008.

  1. Don Kirkman

    Don Kirkman Guest

    I have over fifty years worth of slides, color negatives (mostly small
    format like 35mm) and color positives that have sat neglected most of
    that time. I've just acquired a reasonable scanner for my needs
    (Minolta Dimage Scan Dual IV) Some sample scans suggest that at least a
    reasonable amount of the material is still usable, and I want to
    preserve it so I can pass it to my kids and their families before either
    I or the material is lost forever.

    Can someone please point me to a newsgroup more specialized in that area
    than this one seems to be? I need to start pretty much at the
    beginning; most of my photo experience was in the days of film cameras,
    zone schemes, pushing exposures, and do-it-yourself darkroom work (all
    black and white--I bought a color enlarger and supplies, but due to
    circumstances never used it).

    I've been lurking here for a few days since a new newsfeed made the
    group available; the discussions and the topics are at the upper end of
    my ability to follow what's going on, and so little is on the area I
    need help with that I feel I should move on--if someone will **kindly**
    tell me where to go. :)
     
    Don Kirkman, Feb 16, 2008
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    ray Guest

    Are you having particular issues? I've found scanning film, negatives,
    prints to be fairly simple, albeit rather slow.
     
    ray, Feb 16, 2008
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    tony cooper Guest

    Is there a specific question in your post?

    I'm just about finished with my project of scanning about 1,100 slides
    from 1964 to 1979 with a Minolta Dimage Scan Elite. That number has
    been pared down to 557 (currently) that will be kept as images. The
    number will be below 500 before I'm done. There were, maybe, 150 that
    I never even scanned after looking at them with a slide viewer.

    I scanned them into Photoshop, cropped, and adjusted for color. Then
    I deleted the ones that were almost-duplicates and the ones that were
    just not that interesting.

    The final lot will be burned to disk and given to my kids as a
    chronicle of their growing-up years. They already have disks of the
    scans of prints from that period.

    So...what is it you want to know?
     
    tony cooper, Feb 17, 2008
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    Steve Guest

    I've got boxes of negatives that I've just started scanning with a
    Nikon Coolscan V ED. Around 200 in, maybe 2000 to go. What fun. But
    I just go slow, maybe a few rolls per week, and it's not so bad.

    And since I'm not generating anymore negatives, when I'm finished with
    mine I'll lend the scanner to my uncle and brother. Each has probably
    5 times an many as I do. This scanner is gonna get a workout.

    It does a very good job but I'm kind of dissapointed at myself for not
    taking better care of some of my old negatives... Just leaving them in
    the package from the developer and not putting them in negative
    holders.

    Steve
     
    Steve, Feb 17, 2008
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    Don Kirkman Guest

    It seems to me I heard somewhere that ray wrote in article
    No, just cautious about starting to scan and possibly finding later I
    haven't used the optimum settings and formats, thus maybe needing to
    redo a lot. Mechanically, the sample scans I did went smoothly but I'd
    like to know more about the generally used configuration for good
    quality output. Thanks for asking.
     
    Don Kirkman, Feb 17, 2008
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    Don Kirkman Guest

    It seems to me I heard somewhere that Steve wrote in article
    Most of mine are in a large metal can which, while we were living
    overseas in a very humid climate, had silica gel inside and tape around
    edge of the lid. Old roll film had degraded seriously even while we
    were living in that climate, but what remains looks like it may be
    reasonably well preserved.
     
    Don Kirkman, Feb 17, 2008
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    F. D. Lewis Guest

    here is a website that has tutorial material on scanning:

    http://www.scantips.com/

    also recall that google is your friend!
     
    F. D. Lewis, Feb 17, 2008
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    Steve Guest

    Just a reminder about silica gel packs, they don't last forever. After
    a while, they fill up with moisture and won't absorb anymore. But you
    can recharge them. Just set your oven to low, very low, like 160 if
    it hopefully goes that low, and put the silica gel packs in there for
    24 hours. I do once a year for the large packs I keep in my safe and
    firebox.

    Steve
     
    Steve, Feb 17, 2008
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    Jim Guest

    I have scanned quite a few negatives and slides. My suggestions are:
    1) Scan at the highest resolution that the scanner supplies.
    2) Save in a format that allows the least amount of compression.
    3) Do every thing else with the software in your computer.

    If, like me, you have very many E2 or E4 Ektachrome or almost any of the
    Kodak color negative
    films of the70s (except Ektar 100/125), you will need a scanner with Digital
    Restoration of Color
    because these films have significant loss of color information. Most of the
    old E2 slides have been
    quite red for a long time now. At least one of my Kodacolor II negatives
    now has a purple mask
    instead of the orange that it was in the beginning. You can correct to a
    certain extent these problems
    with careful use of levels and curves, but the effort required is quite
    large.

    Jim
     
    Jim, Feb 17, 2008
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    Don Kirkman Guest

    It seems to me I heard somewhere that F. D. Lewis wrote in article
    Thanks; I have it bookmarked and will study it in depth!
    Indeed. I couldn't survive on the internet with Google.
     
    Don Kirkman, Feb 17, 2008
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    Don Kirkman Guest

    It seems to me I heard somewhere that Jim wrote in article
    Thanks for the practical insights, Jim.
     
    Don Kirkman, Feb 17, 2008
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    Don Kirkman Guest

    It seems to me I heard somewhere that Don Kirkman wrote in article
    Obviously, should be "**without** Google"
     
    Don Kirkman, Feb 18, 2008
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    Toby Guest

    alt.comp.periphs. scanner, alt.comp.periphs.scanners

    Toby
     
    Toby, Feb 19, 2008
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  14. Don Kirkman

    Don Kirkman Guest

    It seems to me I heard somewhere that Toby wrote in article
    Many thanks, Toby. I'll subscribe to both and see how it goes. I infer
    that this is another case of a newsgroup created because of a typo, but
    some of those turn out to be very interesting and/or helpful. :)

    Apparently my newsfeeds prefer the "non-s" version, so I've signed up
    for that one.

    [Later]

    This looks very much like what I was hoping for--quite a lot of
    messages, and subjects seem relevant to what I wanted.
     
    Don Kirkman, Feb 20, 2008
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    Peter Jason Guest

    "tony cooper" <>
    wrote in message

    I did the same thing with my collection of
    slides and negatives. The slides had to be
    cleaned carefully, especially since the slide
    cardboard surrounds were becoming flaky and
    a brush/blower were essential.

    I used the Minolta scanner, which does a good
    job.

    Some of the older 35mm negatives benefited
    from a good press between the pages of a
    phone book before scanning.

    P
     
    Peter Jason, May 16, 2008
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