Many thanks to the Mozilla fans who told me I need Java to view the Personal World Clock. I have no axe to grind against Mozilla. On the contrary, some good stiff competition with Microsoft would be a very positive development. But if MS is willing to lay out some bread for the right to use Java in their browser and Mozilla is unwilling or unable to do so, doesn't this mean that Mozilla is doomed to remain a user-UNfriendly system. Won't it remain just a curiosity and a plaything for computer nerds forever ? For the average user, searching installing and checking out ANY add-on or plug in or supplementary program does not seem to me to be in the cards. But maybe I'm looking at this from the wrong perspective. Comments please. Bill.