My Vintage Dream PC

Discussion in 'Computer Information' started by GreenXenon, May 18, 2009.


  1. Well, preferred remedies available include Viagra, Cialis, Levitra,
    Rhino Horn and blowjobs, but not necessarily in that order.
     
    Richard Cranium, May 21, 2009
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  2. The monitor and the interface are the same for late versions of
    Windows. They are released together, sold together, and used together.
    Oh, Windows has so *many* bugs, I'd hate to ascribe all of them to
    just *one* of its design flaws...
    The PC world did not learn from the mini and mainframe world very
    much. Sacrifices that were arguably necessary to make usable systems
    on affordable PCs in the late 70s-early 80s continued to be made in
    the 90s and even today, when PCs are easily powerful enough for
    separation between user code and monitor code.

    -- Patrick
     
    Patrick Scheible, May 21, 2009
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  3. GreenXenon

    Sylvia Else Guest

    Unfortunately, females are genetically programmed to seek out males who
    will allow the females to maximise the number of their descendants.
    Males who are indifferent to the feelings of the woman, and simply
    impregnate as many females as possible, will pass genes for that trait
    onto their male offspring. Thus mating with such a male, while it may
    lead to a life of drugery and unhappiness for a woman, will nevertheless
    assist in maximising the number of her descendants.

    Sylvia.
     
    Sylvia Else, May 22, 2009
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  4. GreenXenon

    Sylvia Else Guest

    Cuckolding is a tried and tested method for getting at least part of the
    benefit of both traits. And the stick-around guy is the one who gets the
    short straw.
    Admit it - you'd like to be a hunk for your entire life - just as long
    as you didn't have to give up being a geek ;)

    Sylvia.
     
    Sylvia Else, May 22, 2009
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    tony sayer Guest

    Nope they go and shag the hunky boy then got and marry the rich dumpy
    boy!..
    If all else fails theres plenty out there on the net for short term
    hire;!.. Cost yer though!..
     
    tony sayer, May 22, 2009
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  6. GreenXenon

    jmfbahciv Guest

    So what? It's still an app. Doesn't anybody realize that keeping
    this distinction is important in design?
    I can safely state that it's the _source_ of most of the bugs. Think
    about the mindset of the developers. It is more important to keep
    the monitor running. If the app kills the exec code, you have
    security risks up the ying-yang. If the app is separated from
    the exec code via UUOs, it cannot destroy the core image of the
    exec.

    Then you can keep the app bugs separated from the monitor bugs.
    The app may die but the integrity of the rest of the system
    (think file structure and networks) stays steady.

    /BAH
     
    jmfbahciv, May 22, 2009
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    Rich Grise Guest

  8. GreenXenon

    Rich Grise Guest

    It ain't worth it. ;-)

    Cheers!
    Rich
     
    Rich Grise, May 22, 2009
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  9. Lots of people realize the distinction is important. Unfortunately,
    none of them were making design decisions for late versions of
    Windows.

    Peaked roofs are an important design feature for buildings. Buildings
    with flat roofs always leak sooner. But I'm not going to look at a
    flat-roofed building and say it has a peaked roof.
    Windows NT and later does try to keep application crashes from
    bringing down the whole OS. There is a barrier between user code and
    the monitor. It's just that the GUI is on the monitor side of the
    barrier.

    -- Patrick
     
    Patrick Scheible, May 22, 2009
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  10. I would be interested in hearing from you an OS that is free from
    bugs.
     
    The Real Andy, May 22, 2009
    #30
  11. GreenXenon

    Peter Flass Guest


    This is s specious argument. Since no OS is perfect, therefore all are
    equally buggy. Obviously some are more buggy than others which were
    designed for reliability, not for flash.
     
    Peter Flass, May 23, 2009
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  12. Of course there isn't any sufficiently complex software that is free
    from bugs. No person is free from sin, either, but that doesn't mean
    Charles Manson and Mother Theresa are moral equivalents.

    -- Patrick
     
    Patrick Scheible, May 23, 2009
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  13. GreenXenon

    jmfbahciv Guest

    Thus, it is good to talk through to any who may not have been trained
    by real OS people.
    If the building has only seen flat rooves and only worked with
    people who are determined to build flat rooves, then they will
    never know that there is a more secure method of building
    a roof.
    Which is a huge security hole and a major design flaw. Even Cutler
    knew this wasn't a Good Thing....but he lost that battle.

    /BAH
     
    jmfbahciv, May 23, 2009
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  14. GreenXenon

    jmfbahciv Guest

    And then there are the bugs which are another man's features.

    /BAH
     
    jmfbahciv, May 23, 2009
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    JosephKK Guest

    OK VMS man, just what the heck are UUOs and CALLIs?
     
    JosephKK, May 24, 2009
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  16. GreenXenon

    jmfbahciv Guest

    It had nothing to do with "enemies". It had to do with a mindset and
    not having a proper development infrastructure in place before mass
    shipments.

    /BAH
     
    jmfbahciv, May 24, 2009
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  17. GreenXenon

    jmfbahciv Guest

    A sane method to ask the exec (or kernel) for services and/or
    data.

    /BAH
     
    jmfbahciv, May 24, 2009
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  18. GreenXenon

    jmfbahciv Guest

    MS's tradeoffs were based on distribution of software. All
    implementation and design decisions will be very different.

    /BAH
     
    jmfbahciv, May 24, 2009
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  19. And besides design, there's also execution. One wonders just how much of
    that code base (Microsoft's precious Intellectual Property jewel) was
    written by 20-year-old coders without adult supervision, for example.


    --
    Roland Hutchinson

    He calls himself "the Garden State's leading violist da gamba,"
    .... comparable to being ruler of an exceptionally small duchy.
    --Newark (NJ) Star Ledger ( http://tinyurl.com/RolandIsNJ )
     
    Roland Hutchinson, May 25, 2009
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  20. What is desired is an OS that tends to be robust even in the face of bugs.

    The way NT let the nose of the display-system-and-UI camel in under the flap
    of the OS kernel is a good example -- indeed, by now a textbook example --
    of how _not_ to achieve this.

    --
    Roland Hutchinson

    He calls himself "the Garden State's leading violist da gamba,"
    .... comparable to being ruler of an exceptionally small duchy.
    --Newark (NJ) Star Ledger ( http://tinyurl.com/RolandIsNJ )
     
    Roland Hutchinson, May 25, 2009
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