MS Java or Sun Java???

I keep reading to get rid of ms java because of security weaknesses
and i have had a few homepage hijackers in the past. i read one review
that says Yes, get rid of ms java, then i read from a developer that
says NO - so i am confused as to what to do to afford my system the
security that i want.. your recommendations are appreciated, i just
hate java anyway and want it to be as unobtrusive and safe as
possible. mahalo and aloha

 

If you hate Java, disable it totally and be done with it.

If you already have Microsoft's VM installed, make sure
you install the VM security update from Windowsupdate.

Personally, I won't install Sun's bloated version.

 

hi

uninstall ms java and if you like or need java at all, install sun java (not
as big as mike says)
since i installed suns java i have not got another exploit warning from
mcafee.......

coco

 

Well, let's see, shall we?

Sun's J2RE-1_4_2_05-windows-i586-p.exe == 14.91 MB
Microsoft's msjavx86.exe == 5.2 MB

Now, tell me that Sun's version is not bloated -- it's also
slower in my experience.


On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:02:13 +0200, in
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CoCo scrawled:

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Cobblers! If you don't realise the differences, don't comment :-(

 

And you obviously didn't understand the reply. I suggest you pause
long enough to try to understand the material before succumbing to this
irrestible urge you've found to follow Mike around, nipping at at his
pantlegs.
It could mean the difference in appearing a complete, drooling
moron; as opposed to merely stupidly pointless.

 

Howdy!

Now, now, Mike. Two things - one, the Sun JVM is a fully stand
alone product. The MS JVM relies on extant DLLs, and is in total bigger
when you include such niceties as the MFC files it requires (but are
installed with Windows, etc.)

The "slower" - well, slower loading, true. But once loaded, it feels
faster playing Java-based games and using Java-based IRC clients (not a
scientific test, true!) than Microsoft's.

Plus, I'll gladly swap a little speed to avoid the ByteVerifier
trojan B)

But, fine, I'll tell you it's not bloated.

Oh - also notice the download INCLUDES the installer, the Microsoft
one spits out a .MSI file for the Microsoft Installer to handle. Bit of a
difference there ...

RwP

 

Don't you have some trains and birds to tick off
in your grubby little book?

 

Who are you "Now, now"''ing, with your "Howdy!" greeting?

And that proves what, exactly?

Prove that MS JVM is bigger.

You see that? ... "installed with Windows". That means that
the resources are *already* there (not specifically part of
the JVM 'package'), whether you use MS JVM or Sun's
bloated crap.

MUCH slower.

Nope, it does not.

Updated versions are not vulnerable to that exploit (it's not a
trojan, by the way).

And I'll tell you that you're talking out of your backside.

So what? The end result is still much larger, and clunkier.

Translation: MS JVM is leaner.

Where?

 

try j2re-1_5_0-beta-windows-i586.exe