Microsoft confirms that all versions of IE have critical new bug

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by Pennywise, Dec 14, 2008.

  1. Pennywise

    Pennywise Guest

    Really an old bug that was just found or

    "the bug is within all its browsers, including those it currently
    supports -- IE5.01, IE6 and IE7 -- as well as IE8 Beta 2, a preview
    version that the company doesn't support through normal channels.

    Users running any of those browsers on Windows 2000, XP, Vista, Server
    2003 or Server 2008 are at risk, Microsoft said."

    The question is still, why do people still use I.E.?
    Pennywise, Dec 14, 2008
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    Iapetus Guest

    Name one browser that is bug free.
    Iapetus, Dec 14, 2008
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    why? Guest

    Name one browser that is patched (if one even see that a fix is in the
    patch list) less / takes longer than others, had the same basic issues
    across new versions, is so tied into the OS even if you don't use /
    uninstall it, it's still a risk because of files left behind. Maybe even
    name a browser where a security issue meant denying the user access to
    help files. I don't recall the US gov telling people to stop using other
    browsers like IE was.

    why?, Dec 14, 2008
  4. Pennywise

    chuckcar Guest

    wrote in

    Not IE. C++. That's the problem here. Dynamic memory allocation not being
    handled properly. It's the problem with *any* part of MS windows. The BT
    family *may* be less susectible to it due to more time spend on debugging
    before release, but it would still happen. Java doesn't have the problem as
    its garbage collection is robust. I'm not sure if Objective C doesn't. This
    is the reason why you don't leave windows running all the time.
    chuckcar, Dec 14, 2008
  5. Once again, Chuckie turns on his Random Word Generator...

    Regarding 'running all the time' - my computer is on all the time
    because I use it throughout the day and into the night. Yes, even back
    when I used Windows, it was on 'round the clock, and never suffered
    because of it. Never.
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Dec 14, 2008
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    Walter Guest

    Because according to it's currently
    the default browser in roughly 85% of all OS's out there. That, and most
    people don't know or care enough to look for an alternative browser, or an
    alternative OS for that matter. I feel like I'm having deja-vu. :)
    (Xp Home SP3)
    (all auto updates off)

    <opens command prompt>
    <types: net statistics workstation>
    <hits: enter>

    Statistics since 11/17/2008 6:17 AM
    <rest ignored>

    Looks like this one will be up for a month straight in a couple days. It's
    running fine so why should I shut it off, Chuck?
    Walter, Dec 14, 2008
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    Evan Platt Guest

    You are a world class idiot.
    Evan Platt, Dec 14, 2008
  8. Mine says:
    $ uptime
    12:59:31 up 16 days, 30 min, 2 users,

    ...or the time to the last neighborhood power outage. <g>
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Dec 14, 2008
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    Pennywise Guest

    I.E. is the only browser that came loaded with malware on it's first
    release and still uses it - ActiveX.

    If you still use I.E. you don't take the concept of computer security
    Pennywise, Dec 14, 2008
  10. I think you just confirmed Pennywise's statement! ;-)
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Dec 14, 2008
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    chuckcar Guest

    Naturally that should have been The NT family *may*...
    Once again, the idiot feels the need to deny anything he doesn't
    understand. I bet you don't even know what a dynamic pointer is do you?
    Why don't you tell us what the atoms are for declaring a pointer and
    accessing one in C? It's put up or shut up time.
    How many hard drives do you go through in 5 years? How many power
    supplies? Assuming you're not just lying your ass off to be a pain.
    chuckcar, Dec 14, 2008
  12. Pennywise

    chuckcar Guest

    Shut down every foreground application. Write down *exactly* how many
    bytes available memory (RAM only) you have. Don't start or exit any
    application after that. Leave the computer on overnight. In the morning
    check how many bytes available memory (RAM only again) you have.
    *Then* come talk to me. I'll need the laugh. I hate Sundays.
    chuckcar, Dec 14, 2008
  13. Why don't you tell us Colonel Sanders 11 herbs and spices secret recipe?
    It's about as relevant to the subject as your statement.

    Aside from a very short stint using C in 'round 1984, I never used the
    language. I prefer higher-level coding.
    None. Zero. I've two computers here in my home office: one is about two
    years old, the other is nearing eleven years, and they are both still
    running their original hard drives and power supplies.

    If yours are failing, perhaps it is because every morning you give it a
    big old POWER SURGE!
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Dec 14, 2008
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    chuckcar Guest

    Wrong. It's completely relevant - just showing you don't know the answer
    or what a pointer is or how that is *exactly* the same thing as dynamic
    memory allocation. Which is what we were talking about. Give up, you're
    wrong. The only person that may not know it is you.
    Right. And you don't know what a pointer is? Go on, pull the other one.
    I guess my second guess was right - just being your normal a*hole self.
    chuckcar, Dec 14, 2008
  15. Give it up, chuckie. I know what a pointer is. It's a value containing
    the address of another location in memory. They were handy back in the
    day of kilobytes of ram rather than gigabytes.
    Again, I know what it is. But it still isn't relevant to this thread.
    "The question is still, why do people still use I.E.?"
    Are you doubting my statement about not having to replace any drives or
    power supplies? Tell us how many of yours have failed.

    Once again, when proven wacko, you resort to ad hominem attacks. So

    (chuckie-motto: "Rather than try to defend my inane statements, I'll ask
    the disputing poster some off-the-wall unrelated question in an [failed]
    effort to make myself look superior.")
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Dec 14, 2008
  16. Pennywise

    Pennywise Guest

    Your a fool who I wouldn't have come near my computer, I used ActiveX
    one time, (win95) after I realized what it could do I have never used
    I.E. again (I only used it once, second time to download netscape)

    "An ActiveX control can be an extremely insecure way to provide a
    feature. Because it is a Component Object Model (COM) object, it can
    do anything the user can do from that computer. It can read from and
    write to the registry, and it has access to the local file system.
    From the moment a user downloads an ActiveX control, the control may
    be vulnerable to attack because any Web application on the Internet
    can repurpose it, that is, use the control for its own ends whether
    sincere or malicious."

    This link is always changing, but the above can be found by digging
    Pennywise, Dec 15, 2008
  17. Pennywise

    chuckcar Guest

    No you don't. Nor do you understand their direct influence to the problem
    mentioned with IE. You just looked it up. Otherwise you wouldn't have made
    the above foul-up.
    Three reasons: 1. It comes with their operating system 2. It's free 3.
    They know it exists. If you were to ask an everyday cletus what web
    browser he used, his answers would most likely be one of the following: 1.
    what's a browser? 2. There's more than one? 3. What's the web?
    chuckcar, Dec 15, 2008
  18. You have no idea what I know.

    And I see you once again sidestepped a number of my comments. You're
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Dec 15, 2008
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    Evan Platt Guest

    Look in the mirror then, idiot.
    Evan Platt, Dec 15, 2008
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    Walter Guest

    There are no applications running on that machine. It's a spare on the
    network that my daughter only occasionally uses when she's recharging her
    laptop battery. That's why I don't pay much attention to it, and why it's
    been up for almost a month.
    Uptime approx 28 days:

    Physical (K)
    Total - 1047552
    Available - 757480
    System Cache - 347124

    Kernal (K)
    Total - 70660
    Paged - 41848
    Non-Paged - 28816
    If I thought for a moment you wouldn't accuse me of lying about whatever
    numbers I post tomorrow I might consider jumping through your hoops.
    If you're wrong as often in RL as you are in this newsgroup, I'm sure you
    hate just about *every* day.
    Walter, Dec 15, 2008
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