Discussion in 'MCSE' started by Habebe, Jul 26, 2003.

  1. Habebe

    Habebe Guest

    you see me now having just wrote those 7 papers as MSCE
    i live in Guwahati India and will soon wrote the windows 2003 papers
    you must fear me now

    all your job belong to us
    Habebe, Jul 26, 2003
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    newdanny90 Guest

    go away leave us alone :mad: :mad:
    newdanny90, Jul 26, 2003
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    Frank Guest

    All the jobs belong to you, but then you wake up from your night sleep,
    only to find yourself still in India, waiting for that call from the US that
    will never come. So I do think you should look somewhere in your own country
    for it takes a long time to get into the US, that is if you can even get a
    green card.
    You could become very old person waiting on something that will never

    Frank, Jul 26, 2003
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    CJ Guest

    Hahha.. this is hilarious. Microsoft customers would become outraged like
    customer's did with Trend and ArcServe. Both products - history in our
    divisions since the Indian's sit in front of a database and can't speak
    English no one wants to deal with their tech support. At least I will not.
    CJ, Jul 26, 2003
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    billyw Guest

    and where do you think i'm from?
    not another one that thinks i'm from africa?

    tip for our indian friends. you live in a vast and wonderous country, there
    is much culture to see, sights sounds and wonderful experiences (notice the
    absence of the word smells, being diplomatic) there must be a lifetime of
    experiences to gain from it.
    So extrapolating that.. please stay there!!
    billyw, Jul 26, 2003
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    billyw Guest

    fris is liking him very much
    oh yes

    billyw, Jul 26, 2003
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    billyw Guest

    quite right,

    billyw, Jul 26, 2003
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    Dogbert Guest

    That is quiet funny.

    Stark reality is we may even be a little afraid of that.

    However some of our collegues on this site have been a
    little harsh/racist ... "stay in india... bla bla " ,
    whatever happened to the idea that we would live by the
    hackers manifesto: that we would only judge by ability?

    An MCSE Cert is not going to make anyone a trusted
    proffesional. Ability is not dictated simply by a bit of
    paper ...

    Hackers Manifesto:
    Another one got caught today, it's all over the
    papers. "Teenager Arrested in Computer Crime
    Scandal", "Hacker Arrested after Bank Tampering"...
    Damn kids. They're all alike.

    But did you, in your three-piece psychology and
    1950's technobrain,ever take a look behind the eyes of the
    hacker? Did you ever wonder what made him tick, what
    forces shaped him, what may have molded him?

    I am a hacker, enter my world...Mine is a world that
    begins with school... I'm smarter than most of the other
    kids, this crap they teach us bores me...Damn
    underachiever. They're all alike.

    I'm in junior high or high school. I've listened
    to teachers explain for the fifteenth time how to reduce a
    fraction. I understand it. "No, Ms.
    Smith, I didn't show my work. I did it in my head..."
    Damn kid. Probably copied it. They're all alike.

    I made a discovery today. I found a computer.
    Wait a second, this is cool. It does what I want it to.
    If it makes a mistake, it's because I screwed it up. Not
    because it doesn't like me... Or feels threatened by me...
    Or thinks I'm a smart ass...
    Or doesn't like teaching and shouldn't be
    Damn kid. All he does is play games. They're all

    And then it happened... a door opened to a
    world... rushing through
    the phone line like heroin through an addict's veins, an
    electronic pulse is
    sent out, a refuge from the day-to-day incompetencies is
    sought... a board is
    "This is it... this is where I belong..."
    I know everyone here... even if I've never met
    them, never talked to
    them, may never hear from them again... I know you all...
    Damn kid. Tying up the phone line again. They're
    all alike...

    You bet your ass we're all alike... we've been
    spoon-fed baby food at
    school when we hungered for steak... the bits of meat that
    you did let slip
    through were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been
    dominated by sadists, or
    ignored by the apathetic. The few that had something to
    teach found us will-
    ing pupils, but those few are like drops of water in the

    This is our world now... the world of the electron
    and the switch, the
    beauty of the baud. We make use of a service already
    existing without paying
    for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by
    profiteering gluttons, and
    you call us criminals. We explore... and you call us
    criminals. We seek
    after knowledge... and you call us criminals. We exist
    without skin color,
    without nationality, without religious bias... and you
    call us criminals.
    You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat,
    and lie to us
    and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet
    we're the criminals.

    Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of
    curiosity. My crime is
    that of judging people by what they say and think, not
    what they look like.
    My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you
    will never forgive me

    I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto. You may
    stop this individual,
    but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike.

    +++The Mentor+++
    Dogbert, Jul 26, 2003
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    billyw Guest


    billyw, Jul 26, 2003
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    Gary - US Guest

    Doubtful. And you will still be living in a shithole.


    Semper Fi & God Bless America,

    Gary-US MCNGP #20 & retired Jarhead
    The MCNGP Team - We're here to help
    ** Kindly Do The Needful **
    Gary - US, Jul 27, 2003
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    Dogbert Guest

    Yea Racist ...

    What do you call it when you discriminate due to
    nationality. The guy is indian so what. No reason to say
    all the S*** ... stay there ... bla bla ... I live in the
    uk ... there is a problem with with importing cheap labour
    from india here too. I gotta say i dont agree with it. Its
    a governmental issue. State policy should deal with
    corporations or other companies sponsoring work permits
    when there is no specialist need ie. when we have no
    shortage of skilled proffesionals to do the job.

    Im just saying lets keep a balanced view.

    Lets put some pressue on our governments to change laws so
    local techies get first bite of the cake.

    Name calling and Jibes ... well thats petty.

    Just an opinion.

    The floor is open ... anyone ... any views ?
    Dogbert, Jul 27, 2003
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    billyw Guest

    so would you agree with the concept of fair trade for developing countries?

    if you do, define fair trade, is it fair to have a competing economy with
    next to no health and safety rules competing on the same level as a more
    advanced economy. no it isn't. either way it isn't fair.
    as for the racist "jibe" well if someone comes from india, would you say
    they were indian? no racism there.
    if someone is an economic migrant, wishing that they stayed where they were
    and not take jobs here (wherever you here is) and drive down wages isn't
    racist.. it's a fact.
    hoping that all jobs aren't outsourced to low wage economies like india
    isn't racist it's a fact.

    would you be happier if i said those white imperialists are a disgrace, bet
    you dont even view that as racist.
    billyw, Jul 27, 2003
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    Dogbert Guest

    I dont consider you racist.

    I mean no harm.

    Your comments are fair in relation to the disparity
    between the standards of working practices in first world
    nations and the 2nd/3rd.

    I dont like the idea that my job maybe taken by someone
    else just because they are willing to work for a fraction
    of my cost. I think we should be putting pressure on our
    governments to protect our labour markets and not flood
    them with cheap imports. If we do it for grain why cant we
    do it for people.

    Actually it infuriates me the number of people asking dumb
    questions like "if i pass 70-*** exam am I MCSE" - Broken
    english lack of understanding - lack of web browsing
    skill ... would you employ an MCP/MCSE who couldnt find
    out the requirments of there cert from the MS website or
    speak english ?

    There is a fine line between Free trade an flooding the
    market with inferior products/pros
    Dogbert, Jul 28, 2003
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    billyw Guest

    didn't think you meant any harm.
    the thing that annoys me is that people are too quick to play the racist
    card.. It's like criticising Isreal. your not allowed to do it without being
    labeled with an "ism"
    people are needing to calm down on the racism.

    As for government doing anything. well dont expect them to do anything
    unless we complain, loudly. because they are usually financed and in the
    pockets of the very people that want to move industry offshore..

    dont trust politicians they are scum
    billyw, Jul 28, 2003
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    billyw Guest

    you think not..

    remote admin, all you need is a button pusher on the ground. Rather than the
    billyw, Jul 28, 2003
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    Consultant Guest

    all fine and dandy until it goes down and we are speaking of microsoft here.
    they can ship all the manufacturing/low end tech jobs they want over there.
    but when it comes down to meeting with a customer, assessing their
    environment, developing and implementing a solution, this work will remain.
    this is a fact
    Consultant, Jul 28, 2003
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    Consultant Guest

    lol, i'll be retired by then and won't care ;-)

    Consultant, Jul 28, 2003
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    mcse Guest

    mcse, Jul 30, 2003
  19. Hmmm - posted using Outlook Express 6.0 from, which
    according to ARIN ( belongs to XO communications - a US ISP. So
    unless you are dialing in from India, this post is complete bollocks.
    Brendon Rogers, Aug 1, 2003
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