Local taxes in the USA - tourist regulations

Discussion in 'Digital Photography' started by Derek Fountain, Feb 21, 2005.


  1. Unless you arrange with your credit card company to do that. I'd have
    B&H send the stuff to the California address.
     
    Oliver Costich, Feb 22, 2005
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  2. Hardly, they've had repeated failures trying to get sales taxes applied
    on out-of-state mail order companies.
    They've certainly made out-of-state companies waste a lot of money on
    lawyers resisting the state's demands.

    If I were actually within their jurisdiction, I'd certainly try to stay
    on their good side.
     
    Joshua Putnam, Feb 23, 2005
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  3. Wrong. California can only require that retailers with a business
    presence in the state collect sales tax. B&H has never collected sales
    tax from me. California does require (request?) that residents pay "use
    tax" on items received from other states where California sales tax was
    not paid - dunno how they're going to enforce that.

    -Dave
     
    Dave Herzstein, Feb 23, 2005
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  4. Derek Fountain

    Owamanga Guest

    Exactly, it comes down to jurisdiction. There'd be another civil war
    if companies based entirely in low sales-tax states had to start
    collecting taxes for other high-tax states.
     
    Owamanga, Feb 23, 2005
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  5. Eventually data collection and transfer will be so easy that reporting
    sales info to other states will be very simple. You'll see a lot more
    reciprocity agreements and those low sales tax states won't see the
    benefit any more.

    Or we might all die of the plague. In either case, hopefully I'll be
    dead of old age by that time.
     
    Brian C. Baird, Feb 23, 2005
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  6. The real current problem is determining the correct taxing district and
    rate. There are often thousands of taxing districts in one state and they
    may not follow zip code lines.
     
    Joseph Meehan, Feb 23, 2005
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  7. Derek Fountain

    Owamanga Guest

    Yep, because if a state can do it to another state, a county can do it
    to another county and a city can do it to another city or any
    combination of the above. These all have taxing authority, but luckily
    they've made it so damn complicated agreements will be difficult at
    best.
     
    Owamanga, Feb 23, 2005
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  8. Yeah, that happens when you don't have state income tax.
     
    Brian C. Baird, Feb 23, 2005
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  9. And school district, and fire district and MRDs and ....
     
    Joseph Meehan, Feb 23, 2005
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  10. And sometimes when you do. :)
     
    Joseph Meehan, Feb 23, 2005
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  11. When I worked in publishing, I'd love when one of the people from the
    Texas satellite office would mention how they didn't have state income
    tax. Then I'd kindly mention to them all the different taxes they paid
    that I didn't, and how they were roughly equivalent in terms of income
    and then they would just sort of clam up.

    The worst part of Texas taxing districts is drawing them on a map. For
    a map of areas affected by a certain tax program, I had to outline every
    county, city and school tax district within the Dallas/Fort Worth area.
    To make the information usable to end users, street-level detail was
    needed. So every highway, artery, main road and cow path was required
    to be drawn and labeled. I ended up with one of the most complex wall
    maps ever made.

    Ever since then, I have hated Texas.
     
    Brian C. Baird, Feb 23, 2005
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  12. I even had a county club that had the line going down the middle of the
    dinning room. I understand it was a lot of fun at weddings making sure all
    the principles were on the same side of the line. :)
     
    Joseph Meehan, Feb 24, 2005
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  13. Derek Fountain

    Ron Hunter Guest

    I can understand why states want to collect taxes on goods sold to out
    of state customers, but the idea of a state requiring a business to
    collect a tax for ANOTHER state is just about the stupidest idea I have
    heard come out of a politician's mouth, and THAT'S saying something!

    Imagine trying to keep current a database that included every taxing
    authority in the country!
     
    Ron Hunter, Feb 24, 2005
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  14. Derek Fountain

    Ron Hunter Guest

    The simple answer is for the seller to collect tax on out of state sales
    exactly as he would for a walkin customer who lived in another city, or
    county. He collects the tax relevant to HIS location, NOT that for the
    buyer's location! Anything else is ludicrous.
     
    Ron Hunter, Feb 24, 2005
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  15. Derek Fountain

    Ron Hunter Guest

    Dumb. You think Texas is unique in that taxing aspect? You think an
    income tax would CHANGE THAT? Nope, it would just be tacked onto the
    top of what is already paid. Ask someone from ANY other state.

    Face it, so much money is needed to provide the services you expect from
    the state, and local governments. If you wish them to have less money,
    then expect less in the way of service. Just how that money is obtained
    matters little, as the government WILL find a way to get it. Frankly, I
    don't need ANY new taxes, and will vote against ANY new tax, ESPECIALLY
    an income tax.
     
    Ron Hunter, Feb 24, 2005
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  16. Well, the funny thing is:

    IF you pay too little tax, you owe your state the difference.

    If you pay too much, too bad!
     
    Brian C. Baird, Feb 24, 2005
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  17. Derek Fountain

    Ron Hunter Guest

    It also happens when you DO have a state income tax.
     
    Ron Hunter, Feb 24, 2005
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  18. No, not always. No matter where you live in certain states, you won't
    have any more than three taxing authorities to answer to. Some states,
    you won't have any LESS that three.

    Like I said, it's the same dollar amount in the end. But it seems to me
    that a convoluted system of local barons fighting over some limited
    scrap of your income is inefficient and somewhat insulting. I guess
    that's the price you pay if your ideology demands "personal freedom"
    from a well organized government.
     
    Brian C. Baird, Feb 24, 2005
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  19. That's a civil way of starting a conversation. "Dumb."

    No wait, that's a dumb way of starting a conversation. "Pleased to meet
    you, Stupid!"

    Texas isn't unique in the fact it has the backward assumption that no
    state tax is somehow better, like Washington state and other places that
    charge you insane amounts to register your new vehicle.
    How about my state, which taxes like a lot of states? You have, of
    course, state and county property taxes, and city, if applicable. The
    only income taxes you pay are state or city. My tax bill is about the
    same as any other state at the end of the day - but I only have one form
    and one major taxing authority to worry about.

    Now, if I lived in SOME states without a centralized method for
    collecting revenue, I would have to calculate state property taxes
    (maybe even on my car, computers, TVs and other items), county taxes,
    school district taxes, fire district taxes, special economic zone
    taxes...

    Geez, no wonder people from certain states are so opposed to taxes...
    So, let me get this straight... a convoluted and backwards tax style
    that has different taxing authorities is preferred to a centralized
    system that is easier to understand and comply with? So a larger amount
    of local government is preferable to a smaller amount of centralized
    government? Whatever floats your red state boat, bud...

    In any case, my reasons for hating Texas are completely spurious. After
    all, I HAD TO DRAW ALL THE DAMNED LINES!
     
    Brian C. Baird, Feb 24, 2005
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  20. Derek Fountain

    Ron Hunter Guest

    Yes, after you have made a statement like you did.
    Washington state has an income tax, tacked onto all the other taxes.

    In the end, the taxes will still have to be paid, regardless of the form
    of the tax.
    Sorry, but those states ALSO have all the other taxes, in addition to
    the income tax.

    Ahhh, now we see the root of your problem, your guy lost the election,
    and you are bitter. That helps.
    Perhaps you would be happier in the Socialist Commonwealth of Mass.

    Awwwww, poor baby! You had to do the job for which you were hired, and
    PAID. My heart bleeds purple piss for you.
     
    Ron Hunter, Feb 24, 2005
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