Lastest Patches + Zone Alarm & you think you're safe against Trojans?

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Howard, Aug 27, 2003.

  1. Howard

    Howard Guest

    Well so did I, until I tried out PCAudit.

    http://www.pcinternetpatrol.com/downloads/audit.php

    It commandeers your MSIE to route out the contents of your MyDocs, Desktop
    Images, keystrokes and so on. A most illuminating experience.

    So if you've ever told ZoneAlarm that its ok for MSIE to access the internet
    (and who hasn't?) you're toast.

    -H
     
    Howard, Aug 27, 2003
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  2. Howard

    T.N.O. Guest


    eek... worrying... can others try it with Ie set to go straight through
    (software)firewalls, and see what happens?
     
    T.N.O., Aug 27, 2003
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  3. Crap software does not even run on XP comes up with a Memory error..
     
    Robert Kramer, Aug 27, 2003
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  4. May be you do not have all the MS patches as it will not run on XP, gives a
    memory error..
     
    Robert Kramer, Aug 27, 2003
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  5. Also its a bit pointless as you have to have in on your PC in the fist place..
     
    Robert Kramer, Aug 27, 2003
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  6. Howard

    Bret Guest

    LOL runs fine on my XP system, perhaps you have bad memory?
     
    Bret, Aug 27, 2003
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  7. Is "howard" a Kiwi or just some HOTMAIL spam/maketing guru?

    PjN
     
    Peter James Neal, Aug 27, 2003
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  8. Boring. Injecting a DLL into another processes address space is child's
    play. Notice that it assumes that a file has somehow gotten onto your
    computer (ie. (L)users running attachments) and anti-virus is not installed.

    Cheers,
    Nicholas Sherlock
     
    Nicholas Sherlock, Aug 27, 2003
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  9. Howard

    Howard Guest

    Yep, all true, except for the boring part, as it was news to me.

    Defeats the purpose of outbound application traffic monitoring services in
    firewalls like ZA, doesn't it?
     
    Howard, Aug 27, 2003
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  10. Nothing else gives me problems so I do't think so.
     
    Robert Kramer, Aug 27, 2003
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  11. Well my PC must be well protected as it can't even run as the App reports a
    memory error, and the Debug feature does not even work.
     
    Robert Kramer, Aug 27, 2003
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  12. Howard

    Callum Guest

    said im well protected :)
     
    Callum, Aug 27, 2003
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  13. Howard

    Howard Guest

    What's your setup Callum?
     
    Howard, Aug 27, 2003
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  14. Howard

    Enkidu Guest

    If you want to look at it like that. So does any program that you
    install that you let access the Intenet.

    Cheers,

    Cliff
    --

    Signed and sealed with Great Seal of the Executive
    Council of the Internet, by The Master of The Net.
     
    Enkidu, Aug 27, 2003
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  15. Howard

    Howard Guest

    Rather more serious than that Cliff.

    So I install a new program x. First time I use it Zone alarm checks with me
    thats it's OK. All is well.

    Now a trojan gets on my system. First time it tries to dial home, Zone Alrm
    checks with me - I say no cause I don't know about it.

    At least that's how it's supposed to work. Being able to comandeer IE breaks
    that functionality.

    -H
     
    Howard, Aug 27, 2003
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  16. Howard

    Enkidu Guest

    That's not the point. Any program you install, including program x,
    has the potential to be taken over.

    Any program you install is suspect.

    Cheers,

    Cliff
    --

    Signed and sealed with Great Seal of the Executive
    Council of the Internet, by The Master of The Net.
     
    Enkidu, Aug 28, 2003
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