Is 911 phone service really necessary?

Discussion in 'VOIP' started by Shashay Doofray, Feb 1, 2004.

  1. Shashay Doofray

    Charks Guest

    Likewise, it is only logical. However, here in Canada, some use the U.S.
    method and some use the, uh, logical method. Problem is that one seldom
    knows WHICH method is being used unless the DATE in question is the 13th or
    more. early in a month, early in a year is especially confusing, e.g.
    1/1/1 is easy, but 1/2/1? or 2/1/2?
    Charks, Feb 4, 2004
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  2. How can you tell that the dispatachers are black or not?

    Usually when you dial 911, the call gets routed to a county (or
    regional) dispatch center. The dispatch center uses caller ID to get
    your phone number and hence your address. They have mapping software
    which dispalys the location of your address. No need for anyone to
    read a phone book :)
    Timothy Horrigan, Feb 4, 2004
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  3. Timothy Horrigan wrote:>
    Actually is uses ANI. caller ID can be blocked. ANI can not be blocked and also displays the address. ANI is
    also used on 800 and 900 calls.
    George Grapman, Feb 4, 2004
  4. He can't. Remember the dolt wanted to use 911 for a tow.
    George Grapman, Feb 4, 2004
  5. The proper thing is ANSI: year, month, day.
    Tiny Human Ferret, Feb 4, 2004
  6. Shashay Doofray

    Owain Guest

    The Real Bev wrote
    There have been many cases where malicious/hoax callers to the British
    999 service have been prosecuted.

    At around 12.45am last Thursday, Bryan Kyle went into a phone booth in
    his home town of Halifax, lifted the telephone receiver and dialled
    999. A house was on fire in the centre of the town, he told the
    control room operator, and they should send help right away. Though
    resources were perilously stretched, the firefighters' dispute having
    started less than seven hours earlier, this was a clear priority call
    - a domestic fire in a metropolitan area, one of the biggest causes of
    fire-related deaths.
    And yet the operator chose not to dispatch a green goddess. Instead,
    officers at Halifax police station were asked to step outside their
    front door and investigate the phone box only a few yards away, in
    which they would find a gentleman with slurred speech speaking
    animatedly into the receiver. Kyle, 37, was arrested before he could
    replace the handset. As a result of that one rather drunken phone
    call, he now faces a £2,500 fine and up to six months in prison. ...
    Aside from Kyle, who pleaded guilty last week to sending a false
    telephone message but has not yet been sentenced, those arrested or
    charged include two Scotsmen, aged 18 and 56, an 11-year-old boy in
    Dumfries and Galloway and another 11-year-old boy in Aberdeen. James
    Hoy, 51, from Perth and Kinross, pleaded guilty last week to making a
    false call.,12536,847855,00.html

    Owain, Feb 9, 2004
  7. Shashay Doofray

    Owain Guest

    ben wrote
    And suppose the child is not in its own home, or is unsure which
    emergency service to dial?

    Suppose the room is dark or smoke-filled, or the caller is

    A five-year-old Peterborough boy dialled 999 for his pregnant mum
    after she went into labour in the bath. ... Alison, 26, said: "Thomas
    is my hero. He was such a brave little boy. He was so calm and kept
    everything together. Most five-year-olds struggle to even understand
    what having a baby is all about, but Thomas acted as if he had done
    all before. If he hadn't called the ambulance It is pretty unlikely I
    would still be here today. I'm so proud of him."

    Owain, Feb 9, 2004
  8. Were you BORN stupid, or did it require surgery?
    Hü©k Hö§hïmötö , Feb 9, 2004
  9. Shashay Doofray

    ~^Johnny^~ Guest

    Pasadena has lots of DSL providers.

    So do Eagle Rock and Highland Park (Los angeles), Glendale, Arcadia,
    Alhambra, and all your other neighbors. :)

    You probably just aren't close enough to the C.O for service to your house.
    wide-open at throttle dot info

    The time to repair the roof is when the sun is shining
    - JFK
    ~^Johnny^~, Feb 12, 2004
  10. Shashay Doofray

    ~^Johnny^~ Guest

    Well, not with SBC (formerly PacBell). This only applies to =temporarily
    disconnected= services.
    Depending on the telco, a service that remains temporarily disconnected
    for a given number of _days_, may become permanently disconnected.
    If a service is permanently disconnected, there is no dial tone
    (although the line may be able to receive incoming calls in certain cases).
    90 days with SBC residential, and 180 days for business numbers. That's the
    MINIMUM. It's usually much longer, as the telco seems to re-assign the
    oldest (longest disconnected) numbers first.

    But then again, all the above applies to SBC (Bell).
    If you are on GTE (General) or another service, YMMV.
    wide-open at throttle dot info

    The time to repair the roof is when the sun is shining
    - JFK
    ~^Johnny^~, Feb 12, 2004
  11. Shashay Doofray

    ~^Johnny^~ Guest

    ....from whom, and available where???
    Mine costs more than twice that much.
    wide-open at throttle dot info

    The time to repair the roof is when the sun is shining
    - JFK
    ~^Johnny^~, Feb 12, 2004
  12. Shashay Doofray

    The Real Bev Guest

    Exactly. I'm closer to the Earthlink office than the SBC office. There
    are a number of office buildings around here so you'd think it might pay
    them to make the necessary adjustments. Not everybody wants a T1 enough
    to pay for it.

    An organizer for the "Million Agoraphobics March" expressed
    disappointment in the turnout for last weekend's event.
    The Real Bev, Feb 13, 2004
  13. Shashay Doofray

    Ned Flanders Guest

    From a call center training manual:

    Note that your first questions should be about the person's symptoms.
    If the caller is unsure or cannot describe the symptoms, you must then
    ask about what happened to the victim. If nothing specific occurred,
    then your next questions should be about the victim's past medical
    history, age, etc.
    You ask other questions which may give a clue to the seriousness of
    the medical problem. Can the victim walk? Is he/she talking and what
    are they saying? Has something happened in the last 10-15 minutes that
    made you call? Have you talked to the victim's doctor and when? Have
    long have you been with the person?
    Callers may report that someone is "having a heart attack" or other
    conclusive condition. They should be questioned about what specific
    symptoms they observe and asked, "What makes you think it's a heart
    attack?". When you talk to third-parties, try to determine their
    distance from the victim. Usually, the accuracy and completeness of
    the problem is related to the distance--- if close the information is
    accurate, if from afar the information is more general.


    Ned Flanders, Feb 15, 2004
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