Installing windows updates offline

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Ali P, Aug 23, 2003.

  1. Ali P

    Ali P Guest

    I'm putting a PC together for my friend. She's bought Windows XP to put on
    it which we're installing next weekend. It already has SP1 included so I'm
    currently downloading all the post-SP1 hotfixes for her which I'll put on a
    CD and install offline as she'll only have a 56K modem and there's 95MB of
    My question is, there are 44 updates in all (not including the optional
    downloads) - do these need to be installed individually or is there some
    sort of admin tool out there which can do it as a batch process?
    Thanks in advance,
    Ali P, Aug 23, 2003
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    Ali P Guest

    Actually I've just checked through the list I selected and there was a bunch
    of stuff there I didn't need such as international .net framework patches
    which are 6MB each. I was in a rush and just selected everything marked
    'critical'. Oh well, I've already downloaded 85MB of them so I may as well
    let it run its course.
    Updating it from my place means having to throw a NIC in her PC to hook it
    up to my router which is a top-notch idea except for the fact that I don't
    have a spare one (my one is on-board) and I'm a bit loath to go and buy one
    just for this.
    I'll have a hunt around on site for that program you
    Cheers for that.
    Ali P, Aug 23, 2003
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    timmy! Guest

    hmm, i am sure the hotfxchk is only for checking what patches you need and
    it only covers security patches I think. Could be wrong tho, the name is
    consistant with just a checker and not an updater. blah anyway...

    i believe it is possible to install the patches without invoking a gui, ie
    silent. u can just script those using whatever suits...

    hope it helps, just off the top of my head here..
    timmy!, Aug 23, 2003
  4. Ali P

    T-Boy Guest

    There's a *much* easier way using Windows Update...

    * Go to Windows Update
    * on the left, choose the "Personalize Windows Update"
    * 'check' the checkbox and save the settings

    you'll now have a new option, called "Windows Update Catalog"

    go into it, and select what yer want, d/l away, burn.
    T-Boy, Aug 24, 2003
  5. Ali P

    T-Boy Guest

    Naa... not any more - not if you're running W2K (SP3?) and
    above. Just whack 'em all in.

    The old way to do 'em all without rebooting was to use the MS
    tool, Qchain.exe (per above, not req'd for W2K or above)
    T-Boy, Aug 24, 2003
  6. Ali P

    T-Boy Guest

    T-Boy, Aug 24, 2003
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    Paul Guest

    Nah i just run one after the other
    then reboot they still get installed.

    Did no harm. Went to windowsupdates
    to make sure, it picked nothing up.

    So say no more!
    Paul, Aug 25, 2003
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    Enkidu Guest

    Not true. Some still have to be run seperately and some require
    reboots. Not many require reboots these days though.



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    Enkidu, Aug 25, 2003
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    Mainlander Guest

    It's driven by similar imperatives - keeping the filename as short as
    possible to save typing in a command line environment. To a lesser extent
    in the Windows environment influenced by the old 8.3 filename limit still
    perpetuated in CDs.
    Mainlander, Aug 25, 2003
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    Mainlander Guest

    It's important to remember that the most common CD filesystem (ISO-9660
    Level 1) only supports eight-character filenames with a three-character
    extension. Longer filenames are added either as an extension to ISO-9660
    (Joliet, Rock Ridge) or a replacement (UDF, HFS). These are discussed in
    the sections below.


    Level 1 ISO-9660 defines names to be the familiar 8+3 convention that MS-
    DOS users have suffered through for many years: eight characters for the
    name, a period ("full stop" for those of you in the U.K.), followed by
    three characters for the file type, all in upper case. The only allowed
    characters are A-Z, 0-9, '.', and '_'. There's also a file version
    number, separated from the name by a semicolon, but it's usually ignored.

    Files must occupy a contiguous range of sectors. This allows a file to be
    specified with a start block and a count. (Most disk-based filesystems
    require index blocks that list all the blocks used by a file.) The
    maximum directory depth is 8.

    Level 2 ISO-9660 allows far more flexibility in filenames, but isn't
    usable on some systems, notably MS-DOS.

    Level 3 ISO-9660 allows non-contiguous files, useful if the file was
    written in multiple packets with packet-writing software. Also
    unavailable under MS-DOS. For the Mac, you can add support by installing
    Joliet Volume Access

    Microsoft, being Microsoft, created their own standard called "Joliet".
    This is currently supported by Win95 and WinNT. It's useful when doing
    backups from Win95 onto a CD-R, because the disc is still readable as
    ISO-9660 but shows the long filenames under Win95. The limit on Joliet
    filenames is 64 characters. (Some software reportedly allows up to 110.)
    Mainlander, Aug 26, 2003
  11. CMD does so have it, try using M$ stuff before just bagging it for the hell
    of it
    Nathan Mercer, Aug 26, 2003
  12. Ali P

    T.N.O Guest

    I have *nix like tab expansion in my XP... downloaded a util from MS.
    T.N.O, Aug 26, 2003
  13. Ali P

    T-Boy Guest

    FfNetChkLT is the name of the program, not the name of the file

    Yes, it's a fuked name, IMO too.
    T-Boy, Aug 26, 2003
  14. Ali P

    Mainlander Guest

    the original version HfNetChk - 8 characters. As are most of the Windows
    operating system files, Office etc.
    Mainlander, Aug 26, 2003
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