India to make 850 Gbytes nano tech dvds

This is truly amazing. One dvd to store 300 Bollywood or 600
Hollywood movies , which are only half the length of Bollywood but
cant compare in entertainment value with their songs and dances ,
great costumes and sets and superb heart touching dialog . On sale at
amazon.com and others . 'Border', 'Khalanyak' and others with
subtitles are a good start .
Just one dvd to store a year's worth of movies or tv programs.
One problem is that the smaller the particle size , the more problems
you have with dirt or fingerprints . CDs play on , while dvds will
stop and the new ones may never play at all

excerpt
By Anand Parthasarathy
The Hindu
Sunday, May 29, 2005


A new contender raises the storage stakes -- a hundred
fold


DVDs being packed in the Greater Noida plant of Moser
Baer. The company is geared to turn out either Blu Ray or
HD-DVD disks in the future.


BANGALORE: `Size Does Matter' -- if you want to be pack
leader in the optical storage business. And the latest
contender for the title of `Digital Godzilla' has just
stomped into the arena, promising a jumbo-sized offering
that dwarfs all rivals in the field. United States-based
storage player Iomega, has announced, it has been granted
two optical storage patents, that if converted into a
production process, can turn out Digital Versatile Disks
(DVDs) with a mind-boggling 850 giga bytes (GB)capacity --
that is 850 billion bits of information. This will make
the devices about 100 times bigger than the biggest DVDs
available today -- and with at least 20 times more
capacity than the next-generation high-density formats
being readied for year-end availability.


Ironically, to achieve these huge storage capacities,
Iomega engineers have exploited nano technology -- the
science of very small particles, touching atom sizes. In
its patent document, released by the U.S. Patent Office,
Iomega calls its technology ``Nano-Grating'' -- encoding
data on the surface of the DVD, using nano-sized
particles.


Experts believe the transition from patent to product
could take anything from two to five years. Today's 4.5
GB DVDs (9 GB, double sided) are set to be replaced by
the high-density formats expected by end 2005.
Unfortunately the old VHS-versus-Beta videocassette
format wars of the 1980s seem to be replaying: Two rival
camps have emerged in the high-density DVD business. One
-- Blu-Ray -- is backed by Sony, Hitachi, TDK, Panasonic
and others. The other -- HD-DVD (for High Density DVD) --
is supported by Toshiba, Sanyo and NEC. The formats which
will increase today's storage capacity at least ten-fold,
are incompatible and will force customers to make a
choice between two types of disks and players.
....
excerpt observer.co.uk
Studies show that skipping this meal reduces performance at school and
work - though not any breakfast will do. Sugar snacks are unadvisable,
for example. Kids who start the day on these have the attention spans
of a 70-year-old.

Instead, you should plump for beans on toast. Toast on its own boosts
cognition, says New Scientist, but beans are even better. They are
rich in fibre and high-fibre diets are linked to improved cognition.
And if you can't face beans in the morning, or if fellow commuters
object, spread Marmite on your toast.

Then there is the simple issue of 'using it or losing it'. Failure to
keep your brain stimulated will cause cognitive decay. As the US
writer Erma Bombeck once claimed: 'Anybody who watches three games of
football in a row should be declared brain dead.'

Try learning a musical instrument, which could have a major impact on
your thinking. 'Six-year-old children who were given music lessons, as
opposed to drama lessons or no extra instruction, got a 2-to-3 point
boost in IQ scores compared with the others,' says the magazine.
Simply listening to stories, such as radio's A Book at Bedtime, also
provides a boost to performance, as do puzzles, such as crosswords.

At the same time, you also need to know when to turn off and relax.
Lack of sleep is a key factor in poor intellectual performance.
According to Sean Drummond, of the University of California, San
Diego, anyone who has been awake for 21 hours has the abilities
equivalent 'to someone who is legally drunk'. Sleep not only refreshes
the brain, it processes new memories and hones new skills. Just taking
a nap after lunch can have a real effect.

At the same time, such sedentary habits should be balanced with proper
exercise. Walking for half an hour three times a week can improve
learning, concentration, and abstract reasoning - particularly among
the elderly and schoolchildren. Among the latter, those who exercise
several times a week gain higher than average grades at age 10,
particularly boys. The reason, suggests Angela Balding of Exeter
University, may be that aerobic exercise boosts mental powers by
sending extra oxygen to the brain.

Not all the advice is straightforward, however. Learning a violin or
piano, and driving one's musical ability may boost IQ, but listening
to unfamiliar music while working interferes with concentration. You
should only have familiar background music while working.

 

I don't see anything amazing there. Technology evolves and hey,
640 KB ought to be enough for everybody.


P.Krumins

 

Whatever you do, don't scratch it.

 

In the original ads for cd
it showed a dog with one in its
mouth and emphasized how
indestructible they are compared to
records!?

 

640KB? you can't even store a 1/10 of an mp3 file!!!!

 

Its a quote about the time when 640Kb was considered the "most" RAM anyone
would ever need and explains why DOS has a 640Kb limit to the amount of RAM
it could address without virtual drivers. I suspect it wasn't an attempt to
imply 640 was enough today.

 

Quite close, but in the interests of accuracy the 640k limit was
actually imposed by the 8086 CPU, which could address 1 Meg. DOS used
640k, with the balance used by peripheral cards like video cards,
network cards, the ROM BIOS program and the XT hard disk controller.

When the 286 was introduced, the CPU could address 16 MB, and the
386/486 4 GB, but to maintain computability, the DOS limit was retained.
The newer chips had a *real mode* which behaved and looked like
the 8086, and a *protected mode* to take advantage of the features of
the new CPUs.

IBM/MS intended OS/2 to take over from DOS, and this would have freed
the users from the DOS limits quite early in the piece, but as history
shows, the falling out between the then partners, meant we were saddled
with the DOS limits for many more years than we should have been.

 

This is one of the biggest fictions of optical media. Analog records are
far more robust than optical digital at failure rate. Particularly for DVD,
since they approach failure margins so closely.

 

A wog with a clean ass crack?

Uncle Al's CD rack has more platters than that - and it revolves.

Idiot wog.

[snip idiot wog crap]

The ugliest women on the planet, and worse with their clothes off.
Goes to show that a horny man will mount anything if stock animals are
not available.

 

OS/2 was a good OS, but a bitch to install. There is still DOS and Win
3.1 crap still under the sheets in XP.

 

Not really DOS as we would think of it. DOS is emulated when running
COMMAND or one can have a CLI by running CMD. They are quite different
if you explore them.

Win 3.1 code in XP? I don't believe so, as XP is *supposedly*
completely 32 bit (in common with the other NT OSes. Quite happy to be
proved wrong there though.

 

by records do you mean those mainframe magnetic tapes or vynals(excuse
my spell). Firstly vynals are also damaged my scrates even the
slightest.on the other hand magnetic mainframe tapes can be damaged by
any magnetic field near it! so what ever you mean they are not robust

 

Does not sound like a sentence that makes sense to me.
Digital has error correction.
DVD is currently no where near the limit.

Expect blue light 4 layer 200 GB on the market in a few years.
Imagine storing a computer program on in an ANALOG recording scheme.
Back to the old cassette tape recorders Commodore and Sinclair.

There are also prototypes of holographic disks, in a way this is analog,
probably why you cannot buy these

 

WTF do you always have to insult people, and pretent knowledge you
do not have?
You have no clue about DVD (and optical media for that matter), what the
state of the art is, the problems involved, the authoring, the recording
systems, the electronics etc etc.
At least Habsi's posts was interesting.
WTF do I care how many CD you have, this was about DVD, and future.
In general Habsi quotes press reports, so maybe these are biased towards
some region, well good to hear that, US is way behind anyways.
And California will sink in the sea.

 

Oldus Fartus () wrote in alt.video.dvd:

Yes and no. There is new code that does some of the same virtualization
of hardware (mostly for games), and Win 3.1 emulation modes, but it's all
new code.

There is support for 16-bit tasks (just open Task Manager and choose the
"Performance" tab then the "Options" menu to see this is true), but they
are wrapped with entirely new, fully 32-bit virtualization code.

 

I will clarify: The Library of Congress did an extensive study of archival
storage. They determined that no digital media satisfied the requirements
for storage of audio or video. The reasoning basically revolves around the
fact that when something happens to a DVD or digital tape, it is nearly
unrecoverable...a fatal error. Print-through and drop outs on analog tape
are not fatal.

 

I think you are confused, but OK please provide a reference.
The library of Congress DID investigate into several DVD layer types,
I posted the link to that paper in alt.video.dvd last year it was I think, and
they concluded that not all layer materials were good.
Still some materials were > 10 years
www.itl.nist.gov/div895/gipwog/StabilityStudy.pdf

I am pretty sure no analog system is in the market for storing that data.
Error correction is essential.
In fact I find a whole lot of links in google relating to this issue.
(library congress DVD)
Or do you want to go back to those horrible big analog Philips optical video
disks?
I think not (nothing but dropouts).

 

Not correct....the Ampex machines are being provided support.

 

Funny you mention Ampex, I am certified engineer for Ampex VR??00, AVR1.
These were professional 2 inch video tape recorders.
If I ever came across an old quadruplex I am sure I could get it working
(if you could get the parts at all).
Those were 2 inch tape machines... you REALLY do not want to record DATA
on that banding scalloping skewing noise what not.
And, although there was dropout correction, and time base correction, that
does not help you a lot with data.
So you would then take a camera, make pictures of the papers (of Congress),
and edit these (on the old Ampex you could insert too), in say 1 second long
shots for each paper?
Not to mention the 2 inch tapes were big and heavy, needed a climate controlled
storage room, some just fell apart all by themselves (memorex, white powder),
and WHERE do you find a quadruplex machine to play these back in 50 years?
Or was it some other Ampex product you were referring to?
And of cause no random access...

 

I was referring to audio actually...videoarchival is still in various
tape/celluloid formats as I understand it.