How do i trace this?

Discussion in 'NZ Computing' started by Craig Sutton, Jul 14, 2003.

  1. Craig Sutton

    Craig Sutton Guest

    Looks like some ^%$& has signed me up to a porn mailing list. But this is
    whats at the bottom. How do I trace the details.


    You are receiving this mail because you signed up on 2003-07-11 21:01:19,
    using the email address: ***ihug.co.nz from the IP: 61.9.192.172
     
    Craig Sutton, Jul 14, 2003
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  2. Craig Sutton

    E. Scrooge Guest

    Also replying to the bastards to get taken off the list makes it worse.

    E. Scrooge
     
    E. Scrooge, Jul 14, 2003
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  3. There's a good chance that the IP is forged anyway. I've run into a number
    of porn spam lists which put bogus signup data in as a way of scaring
    people into not complaining.

    And of course, a well-run mailing list uses confirmations, Anything else
    isn't opt-in, as any bozo can put your address on a webform.
     
    Uncle StoatWarbler, Jul 15, 2003
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  4. Craig Sutton

    Craig Sutton Guest

    No this has been happening over the last few days.Some &^%* being a pest
    signing me up to mailing lists.
    One was a web host. One was addressed to Craig Mutton, obviously an aussies
    idea of a joke. The webhost confirmed to me that this persons i.p address
    was in Australia. So I have a strong feeling this is the same person.
     
    Craig Sutton, Jul 15, 2003
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  5. I had a similar thing happen to me recently. I got an IP address off one of
    the signups but unfortunately it was just the IP of the Clearnet proxy :(

    Cheers,
    Nicholas Sherlock
     
    Nicholas Sherlock, Jul 15, 2003
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  6. Craig Sutton

    Rob Guest


    Do you have any people that you have annoyed in Australia?
     
    Rob, Jul 15, 2003
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  7. Craig Sutton

    Craig Sutton Guest

    Have has another response from another place that claimed i signed up to
    receive info.. Shown below. had to threaten them to get the info but SAME
    I.P address..

    Hello,
    I contacted our legal office to talk about your request.
    Here is what the problem was we are not allowed to give out customer
    information
    without a court order.
    But they told us it is ok for us to agree with your request, because first
    the person who submitted the false info is not a customer of ours, and
    second because he submitted your email address.

    7/3/2003 4:28:30
    name=*******
    email=*******
    61.9.192.172
    Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.0.3705)

    Now you have what you requested please do not email us about this again.
     
    Craig Sutton, Jul 15, 2003
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  8. Craig Sutton

    Craig Sutton Guest

    I run a website, of course i have probably upset a few people. But this
    persons gone out of their way to be a pest.
     
    Craig Sutton, Jul 15, 2003
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  9. Craig Sutton

    Craig Sutton Guest

    No read and you will see what I am talking about

    First I got this email

    Hello Craig Mutton,
    You submitted you email for contact about hosting.
    How can I help you?

    http://www3.cbwhost.com/hosting/hosting.htm

    and I responded back saying I had not submitted my address to them

    (check their site you will see you can enter anyones address in the box they
    provide its not an opt in list)

    They replied

    I don't know what is going on but I'm not laughing.
    Your IP and his IP is both from Australia.
    I guess stuff like this is found funny there but not here.

    After a threat of legal action they came back with this.

    Hello,
    I contacted our legal office to talk about your request.
    Here is what the problem was we are not allowed to give out customer
    information
    without a court order.
    But they told us it is ok for us to agree with your request, because first
    the person who submitted the false info is not a customer of ours, and
    second because he submitted your email address.

    7/3/2003 4:28:30
    name=Craig Mutton
    email=**********
    61.9.192.172
    Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.0.3705)

    Now you have what you requested please do not email us about this again.
     
    Craig Sutton, Jul 15, 2003
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    John Fulton Guest

    I have given up trying to trace the baddies. What I do use is Mozilla
    as my browser. It has built-in spam filtering for email. This learns
    what you define as spam and in quite a short time it knows what you
    define as spam, and can be instructed to either put it into a special
    folder, or to delete it all together! I put mine into a separate folder
    which I delete all of the contents of after having had a quick look.
    There is never anything that I want in there now, but when I started
    there were a few that got put there, but after about a month or so that
    has stopped.

    I get about 30 per day put into the SPAM folder which leaves two or
    three that I have to look at by hand - a big improvement and saver of
    time indeed.

    regards to you all

    John Fulton
     
    John Fulton, Jul 15, 2003
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  11. Craig Sutton

    Craig Sutton Guest

    I recommend Eudora I have a great set of filters. I get around 50 spam a day
    I filter %95 of it to spam folder automatically. A very high success rate
    with very few false hits.

    One simple filter zaps all html spam another zaps all spam written in
    foreign charsets

    If anyones using Eudora I will share the best filters with anyone who asks.
     
    Craig Sutton, Jul 15, 2003
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  12. Craig Sutton

    Peter Guest

    this quote is from remove eye of Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:27 :
    Quite right!
    However, I've had reasonable success with polite complaints to the company
    that has registered the address block with offending IP. I've only tried
    this where that company is in a western country, and directed the complaint
    to the company a couple of steps up the feed chain. Also, I included the
    email headers, so they can see what is going on.

    cheers

    Peter
     
    Peter, Jul 15, 2003
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  13. Craig Sutton

    back again Guest


    I recommend MailWasher written by a guy in Christchurch - can check
    multiple POP accounts, can be set to trash & bounce emails, or just delete
    them silently, etc. I use Eudora for emailing, but MailWasher checks all of
    my accounts quickly, and I only open Eudora occasionally to reply.
     
    back again, Jul 15, 2003
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  14. Craig Sutton

    Craig Sutton Guest

    Fine if you trust the software..but miss one important email.............
     
    Craig Sutton, Jul 15, 2003
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  15. Craig Sutton

    Enkidu Guest

    Don't bounce because SPAMmers forge email addresses. If you get SPAM
    that appears to come from someone, it probably didn't. If you bounce
    the SPAM, you will probably harrass an innocent person.

    Cheers,

    Cliff
    --

    Signed and sealed with Great Seal of the Executive
    Council of the Internet, by The Master of The Net.
     
    Enkidu, Jul 16, 2003
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  16. Craig Sutton

    Enkidu Guest

    Not really. It's not an attack against the sender. In fact the sender
    is almost always different on different copies of the SPAM.

    Cheers,

    Cliff
    --

    Signed and sealed with Great Seal of the Executive
    Council of the Internet, by The Master of The Net.
     
    Enkidu, Jul 17, 2003
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    Lennier Guest

    Yes - mailwasher is excellent for previewing emails while leaving them
    sitting on the server, or for deleting them outright without having to
    download them.

    Lennier
     
    Lennier, Nov 21, 2003
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  18. Craig Sutton

    dOTdASH Guest

    Lennier will also recommend newsgroup software if you ask nicely :)
     
    dOTdASH, Nov 21, 2003
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