While I have been using VoIP for couple of years, but this one has me stumped. I have acquired a Senao WiFi VoIP phone, which works fine, except when calling "sipgate to sipgate" I don't hear the called person (or Ivor's clock). Ringing 10000 says all is set up correctly ! ? ? The settings available on the phone are as follows: Proxy Server: on/off Sipgate.co.uk port 5060 Outbound proxy: same as above Stun Client IP: on/off stun.sipgate.net port 3478 Any ideas gratefully appreciated, Regards, Martin