# Gravity (theory)

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by philo, Aug 14, 2005.

1. ### =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Brian_H=B9=A9?=Guest

Albedo 0.39

=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Brian_H=B9=A9?=, Aug 14, 2005

2. ### =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Brian_H=B9=A9?=Guest

Groan.

=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Brian_H=B9=A9?=, Aug 14, 2005

3. ### pcbutts1Guest

I stole that.

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pcbutts1, Aug 14, 2005
4. ### kennyGuest

Your theory is wrong... here is how it works.
Gravity as we know it now is just a distortion of the spacetime due to much
mass.
This distortion makes the less energy level closer to the center of the mass
with is creating the gravity field. Its like having a small ball in a bowl.
The lowest energy level is in the middle of the bowl and thats why the ball
stops there.
Gravity is a wave, there are no graviton particles. There is however a
negative gravity somewhat like you describe (that pushes) but it occures
under very special conditions.
One condition like that was the force that caused the big bang to occure.
The parameters fluxed and got to the point where there was an intense
antigravity force that made the whole universe (explode) expand (the big
bang).
As for the normal gravity we know of there is a way to harness it and use
it,
however it is beyond humans technology knowlage.
This technology is based not upon the gravity produced by large masses,
rather the amplification of a gravity wave that occures in element 115.

http://www.mufor.org/lazvid.htm

If you have a P2P client like edonkey emule or sharaza download this file
from the edonkey network
ed2k://|file|UFO%20-%20Scientist%20Bob%20Lazar%20on%20Area%2051%20&%20Antigravity%20Research%20(1991).avi|141026724|7E56A67A8B077659C589DCC71443D90D|/

Kenny S

www.computerboom.com

kenny, Aug 14, 2005
5. ### kennyGuest

I have created that theory myself independanty, however there is too much
diffusion of the wave and the information gets scrambled up.

all you can get back is noise.

kenny, Aug 15, 2005
6. ### kennyGuest

Light speed is constant. That means spacetime has to change (be the
variable) to compensate and make the equations work. And that is what
Einstien proved.

kenny, Aug 15, 2005
7. ### why?Guest

Is there something missing above, 'to much mass'?
That will explain LIGO then, so that's a lot of money well spent.

Correct there are no graviton particles , as they haven't been detected
yet, but there are some ideas about it's nature like it's a boson, a
graviton IIRC is the particle that provides the link for the force (no
puns, thank you).
Isn't it better to think of it as a different way in which space-time is
distorted?

Sounds a bit dodgy , UFO Research and space ship drives, Aliens giving
the US Gov a new super heavy element. When instead they could have
stolen it, or maybe LLM lost thiers?

You were going reasonably well on the general physices side of things
then went off somewhere

<snip>

Me

why?, Aug 15, 2005
8. ### kennyGuest

the light would shine normally

the laws of physics are universal and do not change with speed

kenny, Aug 15, 2005
9. ### kennyGuest

Wrong.... sound waves are dependent on a medium which is in this case air.

Thus if you are moving in air at the speed of sound, whoever is in front of
you will hear nothing. (because it is the same as if the air was blowing
towards YOU at the speed of sound).

Light is NOT dependant upon a medium, like air or any other substance...
Light leaving you will travel forward at the speed of light.

kenny, Aug 15, 2005
10. ### kennyGuest

You will see a distorted image of the place around you that tends to be
compressed in the direction you are moving.

kenny, Aug 15, 2005
11. ### kennyGuest

you stole the story from the guy next to you who was complaining about your
smell?

kenny, Aug 15, 2005
12. ### kennyGuest

Gravity as we know it now is just a distortion of the spacetime due to
yes that is correct, but I had to explain it so he could understand.
It only seems that way to you because you have limited knowledge.
You don't like my explanation because it seems too "far out" to you.
Ufos exist and this is how they work.
Study through history how ufos are said to move, and contamplaint the
distances needed to travel, and then download the video I say in my post.
And then think.

Kenny

kenny, Aug 15, 2005
13. ### philoGuest

My favorite comic was by Gary Larson...
in the picture were a couple of cavemen pointing to a flying saucer made
the caption was :

Ancient UFO

btw: Logically, UFO's *cannot* exist...
as soon as one identifies an object as a UFO...
it is no longer an unidentified flying object!!!!!

philo, Aug 15, 2005
14. ### PennywiseGuest

Pennywise, Aug 15, 2005
15. ### MaybeGuest

Is a contemplaint the countersuit to a complaint?

Maybe, Aug 15, 2005
16. ### fkasnerGuest

Matter when in motion will move along a metric, the shortest distance
through space. This metric near a massive body is curved. Hence the
orbital curved motion of a sattelite object near a planet. Even the old
Newtonian concept was more complicated than is usually stated. When you
jump up the force moves you up and the Earth away from you. But you are
so small in mass and the Earth so large in mass that the Earth moves
almost not at all and you move some considerable distance from the
center of mass of the system (you and Earth.) When you have converted
all your kinetic energy to potential energy you fall toward the Earth
and the Earth falls toward you. The "force" that accomplishes this is
called the force of gravity. Einstein is more subtle but Newton works
quite well for simple systems.
FK

fkasner, Aug 15, 2005
17. ### fkasnerGuest

To travel at the speed of light requires an infinite amount of energy,
so it is useless to argue about such.
v1 + v2
Relative velocity = ______________

1 + v1*v2/c^2

Answers most questions about motions near and at the speed of light.

FK

fkasner, Aug 15, 2005
18. ### fkasnerGuest

Similar to the handedness (lack of parity) of beta emission.
FK

fkasner, Aug 15, 2005
19. ### fkasnerGuest

Meaningless statement! The Earth orbits the Sun in a path that is
approximately elliptical so the distance keeps changing. Actually the
perturbations from the gravitational pull of the other planets causes
this to be somewhat variable also.
FK

fkasner, Aug 15, 2005
20. ### fkasnerGuest

Highly dependent on your distance from the center of mass of the Earth.
FK

fkasner, Aug 15, 2005