Getting canned for brining forth obvious security breaches

Discussion in 'Wireless Networking' started by Curious George, Feb 1, 2005.

  1. Dear Colleagues:

    At the tail end of this post is my original post with regards to this
    matter. Basically, I went and told my superiors that our network was
    seriously exposed.

    Today I had a meeting and, guess what, it was suggested that I find another
    job. This is great, essentially having the dipshits at work side with a
    completely ignorant person who knows nothing about security.

    Guess what industry I work in? Education!

    Thats right folks, education. Maybe the people who are in education need a
    bit of it themselves.

    And we wonder why our system is so screwed up!

    Curious George

    Dear Colleagues:

    For the life of me I don't know why I have to ask this question since the
    answer is so obvious, however, I need to have others tell me that I am not
    completely insane.

    I work at a place where we have a myriad of wireless access points and NO, I
    am not writing from there at present.

    NONE of the wireless access points has any form of security on them
    whatsoever. No WEP, no CHAP. . . no nothing. Everything is open so you
    could walk into our joint, grab an IP address and surf the web to your
    heart's content.

    Here is the problem. My boss insists that its "no big deal" and that since
    the servers are on the inside and protected, we really don't have a thing to
    worry about. Furthermore, my boss is under the impression that since we are
    situated in a wide area, that nobody would be able to get into our network
    because of this distance. Needless to say, my boss does not consider
    somebody sneaking into a parking lot with a laptop, a good network card and
    a directional bazooka antenna a possibility.

    So here is what I have to explain to my boss' boss and, perhaps, the board
    of directors. . . and here is where I can't help but laugh. I hope that I
    will be able to keep a straight face come Monday when I have to explain
    myself to people why its important.

    Okay, so I know the analogies. For example, I understand that not having a
    secure wireless network with many Waps and high gain transmission antennas
    is the same as putting cables out to anybody within 'x' amount of yards with
    a sign that says "free internet access", but since I am going to be asked
    these obvious questions, just what type of damage could somebody do?

    Yeah, I know about denial of service attacks, yeah I also know about
    enumeration and password guessing, but considering that we have an SQL
    server on the inside of our network (no, the sa account password is not
    null) what are we talking about.

    I can envision so many things. Like somebody just sitting there caputring
    packets to get things like usernames, passwords and the like, but come on. .
    .. what else could they do.

    I have read my boss the riot act many times, but this is now going to go in
    front of somebody over my boss' head, so, aside from giving them worst case
    scenarios, end of the world analogies, etc., how else could people break in.

    Creative responses are appreciated and will be rewarded with much praise.

    I can't believe that I have to actually explain this to people, and this
    entire thing would last about two seconds when it comes to talking with a
    computer professional, but you see, my boss is under the impression that
    they are a computer professional because they received a Master's degree in
    Comp Sci back in the 80's. I know that this line of thinking is dangerous,
    but I really want some creative answers to put my point across strongly, and
    yet professionally.

    Although I realize that this post will likely be the butt of many jokes
    (which I will appreciate immensely) I never the less would appreciate a bit
    of useful information in your responses.

    I am going to have a serious drink now, and then bang my head against the

    Thanks in advance,

    Curious George, Feb 1, 2005
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