Genuine or spam? Tsunami

Discussion in 'Computer Support' started by geopelia, Jan 18, 2005.

  1. geopelia

    geopelia Guest

    Just received an email (misspelt and all in caps) asking for money for
    tsunami relief. From , Janzen Hall is the
    contact person.

    This looks genuine, but with all these Nigerian scams I wonder.
    Is this genuine or another scam? They ask for euros.

    (Here in New Zealand we have several organisations to which money can be
    donated, and the government has just announced a large contribution.)

    Geopelia
     
    geopelia, Jan 18, 2005
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  2. Yeah, it's gotta be genuine. It's a normal part of non-profit fund
    raising to misspell things and use all caps, only pretending to be
    idiots. As for the europe.com domain:

    Administrative Contact:
    Email or abuse inquiries contact . Law enforcement issues
    contact 425-226-9011
    Easylink Services Corporation
    33 Knightsbridge Road .
    Piscataway, NJ 08854
    US
    Phone: 001-732-6523930
    Email:
     
    =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=F4g=EAr?=, Jan 18, 2005
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  3. geopelia

    Ingeborg Guest

    Why does it look genuine, when misspelt and in caps?

    The website of red cross Netherlands is www.rodekruis.nl, and Janzen Hall
    is not a Dutch name. You can safely consider it scam.
     
    Ingeborg, Jan 18, 2005
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  4. geopelia

    Ionizer Guest

    Dear geopelia:

    You already know the answer, don't you?

    Regards,
    Ian.
     
    Ionizer, Jan 18, 2005
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  5. geopelia

    cool ghoul Guest

    I think this is called sarcasm! CG
     
    cool ghoul, Jan 18, 2005
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  6. geopelia

    Toolman Tim Guest

    | Just received an email (misspelt and all in caps) asking for money for
    | tsunami relief. From , Janzen Hall is the
    | contact person.
    |
    | This looks genuine, but with all these Nigerian scams I wonder.
    | Is this genuine or another scam? They ask for euros.
    |
    | (Here in New Zealand we have several organisations to which money can be
    | donated, and the government has just announced a large contribution.)
    |
    | Geopelia
    |
    Genuine or not doesn't matter. NEVER give out money, banking info, etc., to
    ANYONE who contacted YOU first. Phone, email, etc. NEVER NEVER NEVER!!! If a
    telephone solicitor says "I'm from your ..." (fill in the blank), and it
    sounds legitimate, don't believe it. Get a number where you can call THEM
    back. If they won't give you a number, hang up. Same with email. Consider it
    junk.

    If you want to help with tsunami relief, wonderful! Call the local office of
    the Red Cross or some other international aid organization - one you can
    trust - and that YOU contacted first. That way you know you are dealing with
    the real organization.
     
    Toolman Tim, Jan 19, 2005
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  7. geopelia

    geopelia Guest

    Thanks everyone. How can people try to cash in on something like this?
    Fortunately we have our own fund raising in NZ, and we couldn't send euros
    anyway.

    Believe it or not, two wretched ratbags actually stole collection jars from
    shops, but were caught on camera. Some people need shooting.

    Geopelia
     
    geopelia, Jan 19, 2005
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  8. geopelia

    geopelia Guest

    Very good advice, thank you. I wouldn't have sent any money to the scam, but
    I wondered about that email. There are many Dutch people in New Zealand who
    might have considered it seriously.

    Many reliable organisations including the Red Cross are raising funds here.
    There are numbers we can phone to donate $20 each time to be charged to our
    phone bill.

    Geopelia
     
    geopelia, Jan 19, 2005
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  9. I'd just like to remind everyone that this is the same silly bint who posted
    back in November claiming never to have heard of eBay!
     
    Miss Perspicacia Tick, Jan 19, 2005
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    Richard Guest


    I doubt the Red Cross would send out emails.
    Call your local office and ask them how and where to send donations too.
    DO NOT send anything to an email supplied address. It's a scam.
     
    Richard, Jan 19, 2005
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    Joel Rubin Guest

    Well, you haven't included the original email but if you want to
    contribute to the relief operation and you know of legitimate
    organizations which will be glad to take your money and live up to the
    charity standards of your fair trading authorities, why send money to
    a spammer?

    The U.S. FBI has warned of Tsunami-oriented scam spams and I have
    gotten at least one which, from its headers (use of PHP Nuke on a
    third party server to hide the origin IP) and format (one webmail
    address near the top and another near the bottom - perhaps in the hope
    that the second address would not attract as many spam complaints and
    mailbombs) appeared to come from an associate of a Nigerian "Bank
    Manager".
     
    Joel Rubin, Jan 19, 2005
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  12. geopelia

    Joel Rubin Guest

    When I looked up in groups.google.com, I
    found a report of a spam complaint in news.admin.net-abuse.sightings.

    The reported spam went through tiscali.fr webmail from a Concepts.nl
    IP which has also been used for various Nigerian 419 scam spams. (I've
    got $50 zillion to put through your poor emaciated bank account,
    you've won El Fraudo lottery, and you have to send me a fee or your
    bank account info to collect your winnings)

    If you write to abuse at outblaze.com (europe.com is theirs) he might
    send you a cute note which tells how they've killed their daily quota
    of Nigerian Generals, relatives of dead African dictators, et alia. I
    think they've been too busy to reply in recent months.

    You might also want to alert postmaster at redcross.nl, which is the
    real thing.
     
    Joel Rubin, Jan 19, 2005
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  13. geopelia

    geopelia Guest

    Thank you. I don't know much about computers, but I think someone would
    already have reported this. I just forwarded it to Xtra's spamreport. I can
    tell most spam, but this one looked almost genuine.

    Some people are rotten. They even steal the money jars for the tsunami from
    shops! Two were caught here on security cameras.

    Geopelia
     
    geopelia, Jan 19, 2005
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