Firefox isn't good enough yet

Discussion in 'Firefox' started by The One, Apr 15, 2005.

  1. The One

    The One Guest

    I've used Firefox for a few months now, I know its more secure than IE
    but...... frustrating isn't the word, I've been sitting here for about 20
    minutes now and it wont allow me to load up any web page as it is supposedly

    However the web pages can happily be viewed in IE without any problems what
    so ever.

    Where Firefox is potentially an excellent browser, it still needs drastic
    tweeking to be a competative browser.

    With relevent spyware blockers and a decent firewall, IE is still the better
    option as there as too many problems within Firefox such as sudden
    unavailability of any web pages, on startup the browser screen wont open but
    is running under processes in the background just to name a couple. Maybe it
    was designed for use under Windows ME.
    The One, Apr 15, 2005
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    The One Guest

    IE is also faster.
    The One, Apr 15, 2005
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  3. I doubt these problems are down to Firefox being a naff browser. It's
    likelier that the webmasters of the sites you mention just can't be
    arsed to create cross-browser code.

    As for the "system" problems, it might help to specify which version of
    Windows, and what else you're running (ie *which* firewall), and so on.
    Have you checked that your firewall rules allow Firefox to connect to
    external sites? If not, that might explain the very long wait.


    David H
    David Harrison, Apr 15, 2005
  4. You wait 20 minutes before you realise that a page isn't going to load?
    It would take me a minute to:
    try a page
    realise it doesn't load
    try it in IE
    realise that IE works
    work out that because so many people use Firefox it can't be that bad,
    so the problem is more likely to be with the setup of my computer.

    Or I could try your route
    try a page
    wait 20 minutes then think that Firefox is useless and the 100000s of
    users must be stupid. Why else would they be happy with a browser that
    doesn't load pages.

    If you prefer IE, then go with it and good luck (you'll need it)
    If you want to just bad mouth Firefox, then you are wasting your breath.
    We know how good it is
    If you want help with your setup to make Firefox work, then ask for
    flippin help.
    Bryan Harrison, Apr 15, 2005
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    Arne Guest

    I doubt that. It takes one sec to load my start page (my own website)
    with Mozilla, and approx 5 sec with IE. Maybe that's because the page
    is well done (cross browser friendly and validates)? :)


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    Arne, Apr 15, 2005
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    John Guest

    I'm not enough of an expert to even suggest what may be wrong with your
    computer, or the web pages you are trying to load.
    Better people than myself will have to help you there.
    However, if you don't have at least W98SE, perhaps it is time for an upgrade . .
    I've used Firefox for a long time on a 800 mzh W98SE computer (with 384 meg of
    RAM) and it works like a charm.
    My AV is McAfee, and I use the firewall built into my D-Link DI-604 router.
    Fast, dependable, no problems, no attacks.

    Cheers! (and good luck if you stick with MS IE.)

    John <><

    A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
    with an other monkey's monkey.
    (A very free paraphrase of Exodus 20:14).
    John, Apr 15, 2005
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    Skratz Guest

    20 minutes?? i didn't know there were still people who had so much time
    to wait for a webpage.
    Webpage? what webpage, where is the link. Why do you come here ranting
    about your problem without even providing something that can be used to
    help you solve your problem?
    IE is not a standards complient webbrowser, it is some pile of code that
    just processes anything you throw at it, including malware, spyware and
    other crap you never wanted it to process.
    It already is a excellent standards complient webbrowser.
    So you want to use a OS that has been known to be the worst OS made by
    MS and then complain you can't get software to run on it propperly.
    Even though you don't even know that that is the problem.
    You also like it much more to install 15 programmes to have the illusion
    of being safe, rather than installing yust one program that does exactly
    the same than half the programmes you installed and prevents what the
    other half is needed to clean out.
    Skratz, Apr 15, 2005
  8. What sites, specifically? I've been using Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox for a
    couple years already and the only sites that have given me problems are
    ones that insist on using non-standards compliant HTML. That is hardly
    Firefox's problem.
    Hmm. "While Internet Explorer is potentially an excellent browser, it
    still needs drastic tweaking to be a competative, secure, and
    standards-compliant browser." :)
    John Thompson, Apr 15, 2005
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    Big Will Guest

    how about letting us know what pages you're trying to load, so that we
    could verify if it's the browser or maybe something screwy on your computer.


    Big Will, Apr 16, 2005
  10. The One

    The One Guest

    Hmm. "While Internet Explorer is potentially an excellent browser, it
    Hmmm it is still better than Firefox whatevers wrong with it.
    The One, Apr 17, 2005
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    John Coxon Guest

    In the two thousand and fifth year of Bob, The One's voice said the
    following, in wonderful perfect quadrophonic sound with distortion levels so
    low as to make a man weep:
    It isn't better than Firefox, though. It's horrible. If a 16 year old can
    make Firefox work, Firefox cannot be that bad. I have less problems with it
    than I do with IE.

    John Coxon

    A mathematician is a machine for converting coffee into theorems.

    Email: john[dot]coxon[at]gmail[dot]com
    Missing footnotes:
    ZZ9 - the official HHGG appreciation society:
    John Coxon, Apr 17, 2005
  12. Perhaps for you it is. Isn't it nice that we have a choice?
    John Thompson, Apr 17, 2005
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    Nate Goulet Guest

    I've found FireFox runs great on a network of mostly Windows 98SE
    machines. Typically 600mhz Celerons. Also use it on a PIII 450mhz,
    runs great too.

    Very rarely any pop-ups. Some sites do not work, but not many. And I
    simply use IE for them as that is what we're supposed to do.

    There is no doubt that IE is more compatible for the majority of web
    sites out there. Sometimes getting them to run on FireFox, when you
    can, is more complicated than simply using IE. Some features are
    disabled by default in FireFox because the features are security

    Performance is certainly better on FireFox, but the main reason people
    use it is to feel safer from all the spyware which causes a lot of
    problems with hijackings, etc. Since switching 30 machines or so to
    FireFox over the past few months, we haven't had any spyware related
    issues (yet).

    The only thing I don't like about FireFox is the whole idea is to be
    safer than IE, and not have to install critical security updates
    constantly. Lately the frequency of the updates has been hitting
    FireFox almost as fast as IE. Somebody must be targeting FireFox now
    i'm guessing.

    Most people in the home especially don't bother to install the updates
    in IE, so i'd think they'd be safer with FireFox, but if the updates
    for FireFox are just as frequent, than maybe not. At least the pop
    ups are gone.
    Nate Goulet, Apr 18, 2005
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    Erik Guest

    I use Opera as my primary browser but as an alternative browser I
    prefer K-Meleon to Firefox. .
    Erik, Apr 19, 2005
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    gman Guest

    This problem i have experienced, but it is a minor one. Make sure u
    connect to the isp before loading up firefox.
    gman, Apr 26, 2005
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    John Guest

    Excellent advice!!!!
    Actually, as I understand it, all browsers work better when the computer is
    connected to the internet . . .

    John <><

    A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
    with an other monkey's monkey.
    (A very free paraphrase of Exodus 20:14).
    John, Apr 27, 2005
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    pixturesk Guest

    In the case of web pages not being available, I just reboot my
    computer, that fixes the problem. Occasionally inconvenient, but I am
    not of the computer generation, so, for me,Firefox runs quicker, more
    error-free, safer from intrusion than IE6. If a web page requires IE6,
    I just use the "view page in IE" extension on a per occasion basis. The
    Firefox extensions I use (too many to mention) make internet surfing a
    much more enjoyable experience.
    pixturesk, Apr 27, 2005
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