Fibre v ADSL

Discussion in 'Broadband' started by ash burton, Jan 1, 2015.

  1. ash burton

    ash burton Guest

    I have discovered that fibre broadband is now available in my location
    but on running a line speed check with my present bb supplier it is
    showing that only 4.7 Mbps is available on fibre against 8 Mbps for
    ordinary broadband.

    Why therefore would i want to transfer to 'fibre' or am i missing something?

    (the monthly costs are similar)


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    ash burton, Jan 1, 2015
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  2. ash burton

    Andy Burns Guest

    Do you know where "your" green cabinet is? How much closer (as the mole
    digs) is it compared to "your" exchange?
    Andy Burns, Jan 1, 2015
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  3. ash burton

    ash burton Guest

    The exchange is about 2 km distant and the existing telephone cables are
    overhead via poles, i have not seen a green cabinet but it may not be at
    the roadside here, although as it is a very rural area with not many
    properties it may be at or near the exchange.

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  4. ash burton

    David Guest

    I have changed to FTTC and your figure makes no sense to me.
    I thought anyway that there is a minimum figure fiber as to before ISP
    allowed to change someone, is it 18Mb?

    I suggest you contact your ISP for an explaination and also get quotes
    fron other ISPs.

    PS my estimate for copper is 8Mb and 30MB on FTTC.
    David, Jan 1, 2015
  5. ash burton

    Andy Burns Guest

    The BT checker number lookup should tell you a cabinet number, or
    whether your line is EO (exchange only).

    To try and find the cabinet, do a number lookup here


    then follow the "Locality or Use" link and then the "All nn Fibre
    Cabinets" link, then the link for your Cabinet Number, the green dots
    will be roughly the centres of postcode areas served by that cabinet,
    then have a look on StreetView somewhere in the middle to try and spot
    it ...
    Andy Burns, Jan 1, 2015
  6. ash burton

    ash burton Guest

    OK it seems 'my' green cabinet is about 100 meters away using those links.

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  7. ash burton

    Andy Burns Guest

    Assuming the new fibre cabinet is nearby the old phone cabinet (and it
    would be unusual for it not to be) then I'd expect you to get 60-80Mbps
    on fibre ...
    Andy Burns, Jan 1, 2015
  8. ash burton

    ash burton Guest

    Thanks for that. Ash

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    ash burton, Jan 1, 2015
  9. ash burton

    Martin Brown Guest

    Or there may not be one at all. In rural areas a fair number of lines go
    straight to the exchange with no cabinet at all. My nearest cabinet is
    further from me than the exchange so I have no chance of FTTC.
    You are laughing then unless the cable to you is corroded aluminium.
    Martin Brown, Jan 1, 2015
  10. ash burton

    Davey Guest

    Very useful, thanks. BTChecker says that I am on cabinet 5 in my area,
    but confirms that I still do not have fibre. The codelook site says
    that cabinet 5 is near to the exchange, and is certainly not the
    nearest cabinet to my house, but that cabinet 4 is more likely mine.
    And it says that I should have got fibre on Sept. 30, 2014, but also
    says that it is not available.
    Maybe the BTchecker '5' refers to a non-fibre cabinet?
    So I am still no wiser about when I will get fibre, but I do know that
    it will be from one of two possible cabinets.
    Clear as mud.
    Davey, Jan 1, 2015
  11. ash burton

    David Guest

    My fiber cabinet is 2 feet away from my ordinary cabinet, neither are
    the nearest to me. I think the underground wiring must be like a
    spiders web.
    David, Jan 1, 2015
  12. ash burton

    Andy Burns Guest

    I think if BT say you're on cab5 I'd believe it, there's no guarantee
    you're connected to the cabinet closest to you, neighbouring houses can
    end up on seemingly random cabinets leading to some neighbours being
    able to get fibre while you can't.
    The data is somewhat "interpreted" and not entirely up to date from BT,
    some dates may refer to when the exchange gets fibre equipped, rather
    than your cabinet itself
    Blame BT.
    Andy Burns, Jan 1, 2015
  13. ash burton

    Davey Guest

    I do.
    Davey, Jan 2, 2015
  14. ash burton

    Ash Burton Guest

    The cable to my house was installed 15 years ago, i don't know if it is
    aluminium or not but if i'm getting up to 8 Mbps on ADSL why would it be
    less on Fibre?


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    Ash Burton, Jan 18, 2015
  15. You're laughing. You should get 10 times you're current speed, or
    something close to that.

    It's not that long ago we had internal networks in companies that
    weren't any faster than that.

    Vir Campestris, Jan 18, 2015
  16. ash burton

    Ash Burton Guest

    The figures make no sense to me but they are what i am still being
    quoted by all sources i.e EE, BT and Plus Net.

    I thought anyway that there is a minimum figure fiber as to before ISP
    I have investigated the BT network to my property and find my supply
    cable comes from a pole about 10m away which in turn is fed by a cable
    (which could be 20 yrs old) which is approx 30m length to the street

    Is this likely to be the reason the fibre speed is so low?

    A speed check on my present ADSL reveals a max speed of 15 Mbps.

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    Ash Burton, Mar 31, 2015
  17. ash burton

    David Guest

    15Mb from adsl sounds a lot.

    The cabinet you refer to is that the old copper one?
    Where is the newer fibre one?
    David, Mar 31, 2015
  18. ash burton

    Ash Burton Guest

    Yes i was surprised by that speed check result too although it varies
    from 15 down to 5.

    I should add that the 15Mb was recorded only after i disconnected the
    'bell wire'.
    The new firbre cabinet is at the same location as the old one.

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    Ash Burton, Mar 31, 2015
  19. ash burton

    Woody Guest

    Unless you have old or dial phones you can safely disconnect the bell
    wire as it is/was only there to stop phones tinkling when pulse
    dialling was active.

    If you have a NTE5 (standard modern) BT primary socket, go digging nn
    fleabay and find yourself a (pref Mk3) vDSL iPlate for it - should
    cost well less than a tenner - and fit it to your box. Not only does
    it do all the filtration but it also has some line balancing
    electronics in it that will do a lot to reducing line noise and thus
    likely improving your speed.

    (Ducks and waits to be flamed.)
    Woody, Mar 31, 2015
  20. ash burton

    Ash Burton Guest

    Yes i have left the bell wire disconnected and i am relatively happy
    with the ADSL speed albeit with the bandwidth restrictions of my ISP
    which slow it down from late afternoon until midnight.
    My real query is why is the fibre speed i am being offered (4.6 Mbps) so
    much less than the 8 Mb (average) ADSL i am getting at present.

    I can't really see the benefit in changing to fibre at the moment.

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    Ash Burton, Mar 31, 2015
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